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Old 03-10-2016, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by LeagleEagleDFW;43293920[B
]But if they fraudulently misrepresented their employment numbers, then it doesn't matter if they promised her a job. That's fraudulent inducement / detrimental reliance all day long[/b]. If the numbers were accurate and she still chose to go to a terrible school, then her case is a crock.
I think that'd hold more water if the school's doctored stats were
1. The only ones available
and
2. Reasonably believable

My brother went to law school. I saw the research he did into schools, easily procured lists, stats, rankings, etc. And this was in 2005. All that stuff is way more accessible now. He chose a Tier 1 school for obvious reasons.

I'm not a lawyer or involved in the field, but even I know simple stats like average starting salary, lack of jobs, which schools are Tier 1, etc. I would know without having to look that NoNameU wasn't the place to go if I wanted to slide into a job easy-peasy. A common layperson knows this. She's full of crap with this complaint.
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Old 03-10-2016, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Shady Drifter
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A New York Times article or four about difficulties in legal hiring being readily available isn't a defense against intentionally altering employment statistics for the purpose of inducing potential students to come to your school. I would argue that it's even worse because it makes a school look better through false means when potential students are making their decisions.

You people that are saying that she doesn't have a case because other information is available are missing the point. The school likely broke a number of consumer protection laws and should be allowed to be sued under those laws. If a person intentionally misrepresents a product that's for sale, you wouldn't expect that person to not have to face consequences for doing so because the buyer could have used Google a little better.
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Old 03-11-2016, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You people that are saying that she doesn't have a case because other information is available are missing the point. The school likely broke a number of consumer protection laws and should be allowed to be sued under those laws. If a person intentionally misrepresents a product that's for sale, you wouldn't expect that person to not have to face consequences for doing so because the buyer could have used Google a little better.
Oh, no, no, no.
Don't get me wrong.
I think this school should go down.
They did wrong. Period.
But we were talking about detrimental reliance, too. Not just the skeevy consumer protection law breaking.

I don't have much sympathy for this dumbo lady's plight. And I don't buy that she truly relied on this info.
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Old 03-24-2016, 11:03 PM
 
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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/3...222046178.html

A jury has ruled against a 37-year-old graduate of the Thomas Jefferson School of Law who claimed that the school defrauded her when she attended nearly a decade ago, The San Diego Union-Tribune reported.

A San Diego, California, jury ruled 9-3 in favor of the school, handing a victory to TJSL — since civil cases in that state don't require a unanimous jury vote.
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Old 03-24-2016, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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I have no sympathy for this person. She turned down a job paying $60k a year shortly after graduating from law school. Which makes absolutely no sense. She'd likely be making much more today if she had taken that job.
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Old 04-10-2016, 11:02 PM
 
Location: 89434
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Exactly, working at Walmart or being underemployed as a clerk making $40k per year with $200k in loans still means you are "employed" according to most schools. Do many people not see how unethical that is? It is borderline fraud. Now I'm not sure how accrediting works, but I highly suspect that the ABA makes a lot of money off of fees when they accredit new schools to grant JDs. Law schools are also highly profitable, so schools make a killing off of law school tuition. No one high up cares about the students or the fact that their, prfit driven motives behind accrediation are completely oversaturating the labor market for lawyers. They are all busy making obscene amounts of money at the expense of their graduates' futures. It is a business, it's simple as that. Maybe it is time we start taxing these so called not for profit learning institutions.
The same can be said about college in general.
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