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Old 03-23-2015, 11:10 PM
 
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Three months is hardly long for a job search. I know many students who don't even start to look for jobs until after graduation. I would bet there's no statistically significant difference at two years, maybe even sooner.
I don't understand why you don't think it's bad if it takes someone two years to find a job?

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I agree and most statistics I see post 6-months post-grad, not at graduation or even 3 months post graduation. I know we have encouraged our children to take the summer after graduation and travel and then worry about jobs or whatever. It's pretty much the last time in their lives that they will have that kind of freedom, and health, to do that. I highly doubt even Yale has that many kids with jobs at graduation.
What are you guys talking about? Someone who chooses to travel or do something else is not a job-seeker.

Here's the definition since you didn't understand the term:

Job seeker | Define Job seeker at Dictionary.com

"a person who is actively looking for employment."

I highly doubt that a college graduate who is actively looking for employment is traveling.
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Old 03-23-2015, 11:14 PM
 
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Need blind doesn't mean they don't prefer to accept someone from a wealthy family. It's not too hard to figure out by zip code which families come from more well off areas....
Even if they did know what zip code a family comes from... none of the good colleges care. They look at the student who is most likely to finish college at their university.

47% of Penn's students received financial aid with the average financial aid award being $44,000 per year. Of those that don't, many are on scholarship rides. That is the smallest representation of rich people in the history of the school.
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Old 03-24-2015, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Even if they did know what zip code a family comes from... none of the good colleges care. They look at the student who is most likely to finish college at their university.

47% of Penn's students received financial aid with the average financial aid award being $44,000 per year. Of those that don't, many are on scholarship rides. That is the smallest representation of rich people in the history of the school.
Not positive what the bolded part refers to. The Ives do not give out academic or athletic scholarships, just need-based financial aid.
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Old 03-24-2015, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I don't understand why you don't think it's bad if it takes someone two years to find a job?



What are you guys talking about? Someone who chooses to travel or do something else is not a job-seeker.

Here's the definition since you didn't understand the term:

Job seeker | Define Job seeker at Dictionary.com

"a person who is actively looking for employment."

I highly doubt that a college graduate who is actively looking for employment is traveling.
You twisted my words.

How do you know what a college graduate who is actively looking for employment is doing? You didn't even give a cite for your information, we just have to take on faith that your numbers are even right let alone anything else. We don't know how "actively seeking work" was defined in these elusive stats you won't cite.
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Old 03-24-2015, 08:22 AM
 
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This is incorrect. I worked in the admissions office of my Ivy League college and a primary concern was having a balanced class. They did NOT want a class full of wealthy kids because they believe having a diverse student body directly contributes to academic and intellectual experience of attending that school. Diversity very broadly used in this context and includes not just race, ethnic origin or socioeconomic status but also a mix of public vs. private high school, geography (all things being equal, a kid from the midwest stands a better change than someone with the same stats who is just another kid from Long Island or Westchester or the Boston suburbs) and other factors. Obviously, kids from wealthy families get in, but it's incorrect to say that a school "prefers" to accept them. Way more than that goes into the decision.

I second this. It is absolutely true. They WANT all kinds of kids.
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Old 03-27-2015, 05:11 AM
 
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It depends on what career you're going into.

There is a Grand Canyon sized gap of opportunity between the lawyer who graduated from Harvard law and the guy who graduated from some 3rd tier school in the middle of nowhere
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Old 03-27-2015, 06:15 AM
 
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It depends on what career you're going into.

There is a Grand Canyon sized gap of opportunity between the lawyer who graduated from Harvard law and the guy who graduated from some 3rd tier school in the middle of nowhere
I will say, with the current job market, law might be the ONLY field where it matters---and then only what Law School you attended, not what undergrad you attend.
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Old 03-27-2015, 08:55 AM
 
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and that industry is hitting the toilet...
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Old 04-21-2015, 08:33 AM
 
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Editor

UVA dean backs use of 5 friends principle to select a school where to get an MBA

http://blogs.darden.virginia.edu/deansblog/

Last edited by phoenixmike11; 04-21-2015 at 08:37 AM.. Reason: add more information
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Old 04-05-2016, 07:38 PM
 
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Sorry, but I wanted to resurrect this thread and give my .02 without reading the previous 8-9 pages.
Whoever stated the name doesn't matter is very naive. I am 45. I grew up in Illinois and I went to a "state" school because I didnt get much guidance from my father. Name DOES matter if you want to get a good paying job.
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