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Old 05-22-2015, 09:38 PM
 
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This story is from last year, but it is very interesting. Choi failed to disclose the attendance of a community college on her application to Cornell University. After being investigated for a cheating accusation, Cornell looked at Choi's records in the National Student Clearinghouse and found that she did not send a transcript from Glendale Community College. Even though she didn't complete any courses there (received all Ws), Cornell expelled her and is requiring her to pay back $100k in aid and fines, much of which is from Cornell grants.

Cornell expels student, demands $100K in paymentThe Ithaca Voice
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Old 05-22-2015, 09:43 PM
 
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Seems like a vendetta by someone in Cornell against Choi. Total overkill.
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Old 05-23-2015, 12:34 AM
 
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I don't agree that Cornell should be able to force the student to pay fines.

A simple solution of stripping all credits earned under the false representation, along with requiring the student to refund any grants, and pressing charges for fraud should suffice.
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Old 05-23-2015, 06:26 AM
 
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Sorry, but it's pretty common knowledge in the college world that you disclose EVERY college you attended, not just ones you have transcripts from. She flat out lied to the college. Not to mention she was caught cheating in class and other improprieties. Colleges can and do require back payment for financial aid in cases like this, and they should. That information is disclosed in your financial aid paperwork each and every year. That money could have gone to a student that was honest and deserving.
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Old 05-23-2015, 01:08 PM
 
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So this all started because was accused of allowing a fellow student to cheat off her exam in a chemistry class. How did Cornell prove that she intentionally allowed a fellow student to cheat off of her exam? Unless Cornell had video of her sliding her exam to make it visible to the other student, I don't see how it is provable.
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Old 05-23-2015, 02:10 PM
 
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So she didn't actually do the cheating, the other student did the cheating, how was the other student penalized?
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Old 05-24-2015, 02:09 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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This story is from last year, but it is very interesting. Choi failed to disclose the attendance of a community college on her application to Cornell University. After being investigated for a cheating accusation, Cornell looked at Choi's records in the National Student Clearinghouse and found that she did not send a transcript from Glendale Community College. Even though she didn't complete any courses there (received all Ws), Cornell expelled her and is requiring her to pay back $100k in aid and fines, much of which is from Cornell grants.

Cornell expels student, demands $100K in paymentThe Ithaca Voice

If he withdrew from all classes, he did not attend. Sorry. But that's how I see it.

I would agree that it is excessively punitive overkill.
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Old 05-24-2015, 05:12 PM
 
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So she didn't actually do the cheating, the other student did the cheating, how was the other student penalized?
If she was complicit in the cheating and allowed him to copy, then she still violated the rules as well.

As for the suit, it seems like her claim is primarily that she wasn't allowed to appeal through the internal school process afforded to students. It's a Catch-22 - she says she was a student so she was entitled to use the student appeal process, but Cornell is saying that since she cheated the system to gain admission, her status as a student is invalid and she's not allowed to use that appeals process.

Additionally, the linked article indicates some other irregularities in her records. We obviously don't know all of the facts, but my money would be on Cornell winning this. You shouldn't be able to claim the benefits of something you fraudulently obtained.
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Old 05-24-2015, 06:41 PM
 
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This is BS and her lawyer will likely have a field day. They didn't want to bother with her appeal of the cheating charge, so they found some technicality to use to get rid of her. Failing to disclose that she "attended" a college where she withdrew from all her classes is not a "material" omission.

Also if she was "never really a student" it's Cornell, not Choi, who misappropriated the funds and owes the Government the money. They took the money on her behalf and applied it to her tuition, after all.
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Old 05-25-2015, 11:07 PM
 
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If he withdrew from all classes, he did not attend. Sorry. But that's how I see it.

I would agree that it is excessively punitive overkill.
There is usually a deadline to drop a course before receiving a W. After that, there is a deadline to drop a course to receive a W, and that can be as far as the middle of the term. I think the lesson here is that, if you've been enrolled long enough to generate letters on a transcript, then you should disclose the college on applications.
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