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Old 07-20-2020, 09:58 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Just looked up the specs. Wow, that's steep.
I'll try and look around when I have time.

Specs:
https://www.pcgamer.com/microsoft-fl...-requirements/
I posted the official Microsoft release of the specs in my OP.

I think gguerra's suggestion is a good one. If you have other suggestions, even if just about brand, I'm all ears.

 
Old 07-20-2020, 10:30 AM
 
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If budget is a major concern, I'd just get the upcoming xBox Series X. If that launches anywhere remotely near $500 current PCs can't even get close to that for $1,000. RTX 3000 and upcoming big navi potentially could change that but they'd have to be huge increases in performance per dollar that we haven't seen recently.

Take the GTX 1080 to RTX 2080 series of cards. Even with over three years between releases, the improvement between the GTX 1080 and an RTX 2080 were pretty modest ones, roughly 20%. On top of that, the value wasn't there at all. The RTX 2080 cost as much as the GTX 1080 Ti and was marginally faster. Three plus years for a whole lot of nothing burger was what you got. Not entirely true, you had the useless stuff like ray tracing and DLSS 1.0 which no one cared about. At the lower end things were better. The GTX 1660 and 1650 cards were pretty decent replacements that actually did offer some real improvement for dollar. In order to get anything close to PS5/xBox Series X performance around $500 you'll need somewhere close to RTX 2080 performance from a $200 video card. I can't see that happening. Next Gen consoles might cost more than $500, maybe the on paper performance won't be as great on them as it sounds, but value is definitely looking to be solidly in favor of consoles this time around.
I can’t see flying with an Xbox controller though. I need a yoke, do they work with the Xbox?
 
Old 07-20-2020, 10:33 AM
 
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I posted the official Microsoft release of the specs in my OP.

I think gguerra's suggestion is a good one. If you have other suggestions, even if just about brand, I'm all ears.
Look at something like this - between Recommended and Ideal as far as specs go.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desk...top/wdryzr1030
 
Old 07-20-2020, 11:26 AM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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Look at something like this - between Recommended and Ideal as far as specs go.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desk...top/wdryzr1030
When I bought my system, I was looking at Alienware but I wasn't buying it just for gaming. I wanted something suitable for office/business work, home theater and a somewhat capable gaming machine if I decided to delve in that. I am not a gamer by any stretch of the imagination. I also thought of Flight Simulator when I got it. The specs for it were announced months ago. I just did not like the look of the Alienware cases. Just not my cup of tea. I do like the look and feel of the XPS. Overclocking was not something I wanted anyway, that will sometimes present cooling problems although I do believe you can get an OC version of the XPS for an extra $50. I spent around $1k basically. I went with Windows 10 pro, the 1660 GTX, 16gb RAM and a combo 256 SSD/ 1TB HDD. I am very happy with it. It's quiet and fast, way better than what I was replacing.

This is the base version of it. The only thing I added was RAM and I went to Windows 10 pro.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/member/sh...p/xdvsetcr001s

I wanted it future proof to a point so I decided to buy something a little better than a "budget" system. You get what you pay for.
 
Old 07-20-2020, 11:38 AM
 
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When I bought my system, I was looking at Alienware but I wasn't buying it just for gaming. I wanted something suitable for office/business work, home theater and a somewhat capable gaming machine if I decided to delve in that. I am not a gamer by any stretch of the imagination. I also thought of Flight Simulator when I got it. The specs for it were announced months ago. I just did not like the look of the Alienware cases. Just not my cup of tea. I do like the look and feel of the XPS. Overclocking was not something I wanted anyway, that will sometimes present cooling problems although I do believe you can get an OC version of the XPS for an extra $50. I spent around $1k basically. I went with Windows 10 pro, the 1660 GTX, 16gb RAM and a combo 256 SSD/ 1TB HDD. I am very happy with it. It's quiet and fast, way better than what I was replacing.

This is the base version of it. The only thing I added was RAM and I went to Windows 10 pro.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/member/sh...p/xdvsetcr001s

I wanted it future proof to a point so I decided to buy something a little better than a "budget" system. You get what you pay for.
What's the advantage in Windows 10 pro?
 
Old 07-20-2020, 12:24 PM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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What's the advantage in Windows 10 pro?
For me, it was business related. Remote Desktop to be exact among a few other things.

You probably not have a need for those things.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...10-home-vs-pro
 
Old 07-20-2020, 03:33 PM
 
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When I bought my system, I was looking at Alienware but I wasn't buying it just for gaming. I wanted something suitable for office/business work, home theater and a somewhat capable gaming machine if I decided to delve in that. I am not a gamer by any stretch of the imagination. I also thought of Flight Simulator when I got it. The specs for it were announced months ago. I just did not like the look of the Alienware cases. Just not my cup of tea. I do like the look and feel of the XPS. Overclocking was not something I wanted anyway, that will sometimes present cooling problems although I do believe you can get an OC version of the XPS for an extra $50. I spent around $1k basically. I went with Windows 10 pro, the 1660 GTX, 16gb RAM and a combo 256 SSD/ 1TB HDD. I am very happy with it. It's quiet and fast, way better than what I was replacing.

This is the base version of it. The only thing I added was RAM and I went to Windows 10 pro.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/member/sh...p/xdvsetcr001s

I wanted it future proof to a point so I decided to buy something a little better than a "budget" system. You get what you pay for.
I’d spec it just a bit higher - slightly better CPU, video card and 8GB more RAM. I’d also switch to a 512GB NVMe SSD instead of a boot 256 SSD with 1TB HDD.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/member/sh...6-55c477f8f8dc
 
Old 07-20-2020, 03:55 PM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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I’d spec it just a bit higher - slightly better CPU, video card and 8GB more RAM. I’d also switch to a 512GB NVMe SSD instead of a boot 256 SSD with 1TB HDD.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/member/sh...6-55c477f8f8dc
512 is not enough for me so I found a balance on price/value. I store a lot of large files especially video and audio like MKVs and FLACs and that hogs up space pretty quick.

I could spec it WAY higher as well if the sky was the limit on cost. Core i9, 32gb RAM, 512 SSD/2TB, 8GB GPU HDD etc. I only use it a couple of days as week and is more like a hobby machine for me.

It's more than good enough for my needs.
 
Old 07-20-2020, 04:05 PM
 
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512 is not enough for me so I found a balance on price/value. I store a lot of large files especially video and audio like MKVs and FLACs and that hogs up space pretty quick.

I could spec it WAY higher as well if the sky was the limit on cost. Core i9, 32gb RAM, 512 SSD/2TB, 8GB GPU HDD etc. I only use it a couple of days as week and is more like a hobby machine for me.

It's more than good enough for my needs.
I was thinking about OP and MSFS 2020...
 
Old 07-21-2020, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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For me, it was business related. Remote Desktop to be exact among a few other things.
Remote Desktop is available in Home.
The 2 things PRO provides that HOME does not is really only BitLocker and being able to join a domain. Nothing a typical home user needs.
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