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Old 04-06-2013, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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A friend of mine heard from a bartender who once went on a cruise that a doctor once operated on a passenger and accidentally removed the guys appendix when he was just in to get sea sick medicine, or something like that.
they don't have operation rooms on ships, they either keep the passengers as comfortable as they can until the next port or they are air lifted in a case like you are talking about. Maybe your friend had too much to drink or the bar tender did. See, why you should believe what you daddy told you: don't believe anything you hear and only 1/2 of what you see. Or at least my dad told me that.
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Old 04-06-2013, 05:43 PM
 
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You are horribly misinformed. Whoever wrote that book either did so 40 years ago, or didn't know what they were talking about. Considering the helicopter ride is billed to the person who takes it (hence travel insurance with medical evacuation is critical) that would have no bearing. If anything, ship doctors err in the side of caution.

The CDC has laws that govern all ships that come into American ports, and having a doctor on board is one of them.

Again I ask, have you ever cruised?
I don't know how long ago this person worked in the industry. It was some time ago. It may be that he said it was the ineptitude of the doctor, telling the patient that he was not in a serious enough condition to merit a helicopter ride to shore. At any rate, the problem was that of the cruise ship, which is the point I was trying to make.

Well, from the book it seems that there is not a lot of vetting of the doctors on some of these lines.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:55 PM
 
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I don't know how long ago this person worked in the industry. It was some time ago. It may be that he said it was the ineptitude of the doctor, telling the patient that he was not in a serious enough condition to merit a helicopter ride to shore. At any rate, the problem was that of the cruise ship, which is the point I was trying to make.

Well, from the book it seems that there is not a lot of vetting of the doctors on some of these lines.
you still haven't answered the question about if and when you have cruised. As for the helicopter trip, the cruiser would make that decision or together with the doctor as it is the patient that is paying the $25,000.00 trip.
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Old 04-07-2013, 03:47 PM
 
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you still haven't answered the question about if and when you have cruised. As for the helicopter trip, the cruiser would make that decision or together with the doctor as it is the patient that is paying the $25,000.00 trip.
A helicopter trip is $25,000 regardless of the distance it travels to the ship? Sounds strange to me.
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Old 04-07-2013, 06:29 PM
 
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A helicopter trip is $25,000 regardless of the distance it travels to the ship? Sounds strange to me.
Believe me it is true. We had a couple from our church. He had a heart attack and not a massive one. To fly him back to the USA and they were in the Caribbean was $35,000. I agree it sound ridiculous but it is true. This couple did not take travel insurance and it took a huge portion of their life savings.
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:53 PM
 
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On 2 of our cruises when they helicoptered people out it cost $50,000.00.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:38 PM
 
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Believe me it is true. We had a couple from our church. He had a heart attack and not a massive one. To fly him back to the USA and they were in the Caribbean was $35,000. I agree it sound ridiculous but it is true. This couple did not take travel insurance and it took a huge portion of their life savings.
Oh. That's more like it. I thought every trip was $25k by the way it was phrased.

Yeah. A fellow I know had a significant responsibility at his company. He went on a cruise for vacation thinking he could not be reached. The company had an issue come up and air lifted him from the vessel by helicopter.

I would gladly pay it to be treated by specialists for an emergency situation.
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Old 04-08-2013, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Oh. That's more like it. I thought every trip was $25k by the way it was phrased.

Yeah. A fellow I know had a significant responsibility at his company. He went on a cruise for vacation thinking he could not be reached. The company had an issue come up and air lifted him from the vessel by helicopter.

I would gladly pay it to be treated by specialists for an emergency situation.
You say you would gladly pay the price, what about those who don't have the funds to pay $25,000 or more? This is why, I can't stress enough how important it is to carry travel insurance and make sure what it covers.

Oh and I am not sure what you mean by thinking I said every trip was $25,000? Yes, when you are taken by air off a ship you can figure $25,000 min because you are going to be transported back to the USA or someplace similar...
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Old 04-08-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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You say you would gladly pay the price, what about those who don't have the funds to pay $25,000 or more? This is why, I can't stress enough how important it is to carry travel insurance and make sure what it covers.

Oh and I am not sure what you mean by thinking I said every trip was $25,000? Yes, when you are taken by air off a ship you can figure $25,000 min because you are going to be transported back to the USA or someplace similar...
I am a great proponent of being fiscally responsible. I think if you don't have a sizable emergency fund you should not be taking vacations - yes, or travel insurance. The thing is, if people save and invest well during their lives many will reach a point in which they may not need to incur the additional expenses of travel or long term care insurance.

That may seem like an extreme view to many, but to me it is just taking care of business and setting priorities properly.

Maybe for some 'taking care of business' might mean to avoid the bargain brand cruises, as well?
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Old 04-08-2013, 12:03 PM
 
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A helicopter trip is $25,000 regardless of the distance it travels to the ship? Sounds strange to me.
If you are picked up by helicopter at your home for a ride to a trauma center 15 miles away, expect a $10K bill. I would expect a chopper ride off a cruise ship could be $50K or more.
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