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Old 01-30-2015, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I need to read the law before I can jump to conclusions about what it actually says and means. If I've learned anything, it's not to take the media, and ESPECIALLY social media of any kind, as a trustworthy interpreter of the law!

Any more than I take people who love to stereotype (be it Texas or blacks or women or liberals or conservatives or what have you) seriously.
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Old 01-30-2015, 10:15 AM
 
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My problem is what happens if/when a student gets a hold of the gun or if Joking Johnny gets on the teacher's last nerve and he/she decided to put a bullet in Joking Johnny's head.
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Old 01-30-2015, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Joking Johnny should have been removed from the classroom long before that happens. Failure to do so is completer irresponsibility on the part of the teacher and the school administration no matter who Jonny's parents are.
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Old 01-30-2015, 11:36 AM
 
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Joking Johnny should have been removed from the classroom long before that happens. Failure to do so is completer irresponsibility on the part of the teacher and the school administration no matter who Jonny's parents are.
Yeah, but lots of teachers have classroom management issues and can't manage their classrooms. Many tend to put up with each Johnny's bullish*t. And when students like myself make a fuss (conversation with the teacher or anonymous note), we're told by the teacher that "it's not your fault that you're so mature" or "boys will be boys".

Oh, yeah, and administration doesn't expel kids like they used to. It's just suspension after suspension.
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Old 01-30-2015, 11:36 AM
 
Location: galaxy far far away
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Ah yes, Raw Story, a stellar example of unbiased reporting. Not.
Clickbaiting. Inflammatory, erroneous headlines designed to get more hits.

Looks like some more of Mr One Percenter Mayor Bloomberg's work.
He's dedicating tens of millions to disseminate lies about guns.

Funny how people are so willing to give up the right to protect themselves and at the same time are dissing the cops they believe will be there to save them.

All the while Mr. Bloomberg has upwards of 35 armed guards around him protecting his property and his life. But since you and I don't have that kind of money, we're supposed to give up protecting our lives, our kids lives, our schoolkids, and then diss the cops who people pretend will be there the second we need them.
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Old 01-30-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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I think many of you are missing the point.

If the students know they'll be shot on sight by a teacher for destroying school property, they won't destroy school property. Problem solved! In fact, maybe the punks will start treating their school, teachers and other students with a bit more respect.
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Old 01-30-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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Enacting a law that releases a teacher for shooting and killing a student to protect "school property" is as inane a law to be debated much less passed as I have ever read. But, you know, Texas conservatives are pro-life except in myriad cases where gun rights trumps human life and apparently under this proposed legislation, your life is apparently worth no more than some high school gym equipment.
It won't take long before some innocent student is gun down by a trigger happy teacher. Then all the excuses will happen. As for right to life, those conservatives just like adding more babies while cutting among other things, WIC and Head Start. You know, more bodies to fill up the for profit prisons and to cherish FOX NEWS.
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Old 01-30-2015, 12:27 PM
 
Location: galaxy far far away
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It won't take long before some innocent student is gun down by a trigger happy teacher. Then all the excuses will happen. As for right to life, those conservatives just like adding more babies while cutting among other things, WIC and Head Start. You know, more bodies to fill up the for profit prisons and to cherish FOX NEWS.
Oh Please. The one thing I know is this, I'm far more polite and conscientious when I'm carrying. You don't pull it unless you are threatened, and an "innocent" student isn't threatening - right? Of course, the teacher who was raped and murdered by her student might tell you, if she could, that all those students aren't "innocent." This ain't mayberry, even if your sheltered life is.

Teachers who carry now are well trained. You'd be surprised at the amount of care and training that goes into carrying a weapon of any kind. You can't have it both ways - you scream and cry about sandyhook, and then you want to leave everyone helpless. Which is it? The statement "when seconds count, cops are minutes away" is a true one. Beyond all that, it is NOT a cops job to protect you. It's a cops job to "protect the public." ie - Not "individuals." Their job is to show up after an event happens, gather data, supervise the collection of evidence, and work with the EMT's and the coroner to take care of the bodies.

Shane Krauser, ASU Professor, "Making good people helpless does not make bad people harmless."

As for the rest of your sarcastic post, it's clear you don't know many conservatives.
Your statement contains so many errors that it's hard to know where to start, let alone whether or not it's worth it. Confirmation bias is a dangerous thing. Glad to see that you are soloforlife - but it also explains why you don't understand the need to protect another person's life.

Again - the headline is BS, inflammatory, misleading and would get an F in a Journalism class.
It wouldn't be much different than having a headline:
"Liberals have killed 50 million babies since Roe v Wade!" -stats
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Old 01-30-2015, 12:56 PM
 
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Sounds to me like a moot point. Don't do anything wrong and nothing will happen. It's a pretty simple to follow rules and obey the law.
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Old 01-30-2015, 02:48 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Protecting students and teachers from a "Sandy Hook" crazy is laudable. Protecting property, except for life threatening arson, is absurd. We do not shoot people for breaking up some furniture.
But if we did there would be less broken furniture. And dang little body slamming of teachers.
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