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Old 04-03-2015, 04:45 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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That is why the 1st Amendment was put in place. To guarantee the religious that they would not be forced to deny their faith in a secular society.

You are forcing the florist to uphold your "non-secular" values by enlisting the power of the state to force her to participate or be punished.
Yet again, she is being asked to not discriminate. That's all.
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:46 PM
 
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So when the whole "things are equal blacks can marry within their own race just like whites" argument was overruled the court was wrong?

No, of course not. Black men were not afforded the same rights to marry a white woman as were white men. It was not the RELATIONSHIP at issue. It was the SKIN COLOR of one of the people. Requiring a certain skin color to enter into a marriage contract is treating people differently under the law. The MAN (black) was seeking to marry a WOMAN (white), so skin color was the discrimination, not the relationship that marriage was legally intended to create.

The law was forbidding a man his legal right to marry a woman, solely based on his skin color and that is unequal treatment under the law.
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:47 PM
 
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But you still incur fees related to giving birth.
Which are already deductible under "Health care costs" elsewhere on the form!

Or at least that part of your health care expenses that weren't covered by insurance would be.
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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That doesn't change the fact that companies provide compensation to adoptive parents and the IRS gives credits as well.

Medical expenses cannot be written off dollar for dollar on income tax returns.
OMG how dare people who adopt be given any help!

If you adopt you can write off expenses for the adoption. Just like you can write of childcare expenses.

And the medical, and child care tax deductions are dollar for dollar.
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:48 PM
 
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Yet again, she is being asked to not discriminate. That's all.
And she never did discriminate against the gay person. That's all.
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:49 PM
 
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OMG how dare people who adopt be given any help!

If you adopt you can write off expenses for the adoption. Just like you can write of childcare expenses.

Again, you are falsely focusing on the wrong point, which is the government does not guarantee the protection of equal treatment of relationships.
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:51 PM
 
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Look where it comes from? Under ritualistic practices like sacrificing children to Molech.

Follow the context. Sexual sins come earlier, then there is a break into ritualistic practices. I don;t know of any gays having ritualistic sex in temples to Molech, do you?

You are really obtuse. But you have a personal agenda that does not allow for rational discussion. My children were that age once. Have a good life jjrose.
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:51 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Really, didn't you just admit that gay marriage is your Selma? That is EXATLY the point of that article.
I do not have "Selma envy" and I do not agree that "gay marriage isn't about justice". I do not agree that people "invent a monster of anti-gay bigotry". I do not agree with many other statements the writer makes.
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:53 PM
 
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You seem to believe that you know more about constitutional law than the scores of judges, including the supreme court on several occasions, that have ruled on such cases.

Where did you attend law school, and when were you a supreme court justice or state judge, or circuit court judge?
That JUDGES are demi-gods and not subject to corruption and political social engineering for a promotion.

You never addressed my contentions you went on the person attacks of ad-hominem YOU KNOW WHY?

because I just blew you and your judges out of the water. Had I been wrong you would have went after that to get satisfaction, but no, you ignored the truth of my post and did what lawyers who got showed up do! PERSONAL ATTACKS ...nice try but, lame.

YOUR QUESTIONS DON'T DESERVE AN ANSWER because you did not stay on topic and challenge by rebuttal to your contentions.
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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You are really obtuse. But you have a personal agenda that does not allow for rational discussion. My children were that age once. Have a good life jjrose.
Oh poor thing, can't handle the fact that you don't understand the context of Leviticus?

Here, maybe this will help you. Context and analysis of Leviticus 18:22 and homosexuality; all views
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