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Old 04-20-2015, 09:36 PM
 
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They faced some lawsuits, the biggest coming from the family of a prosecutor who ended up killing himself after being cornered while on the show. It came off more as entrapment than anything else, they basically harassed the guy and ended up going to his house after he cut off contact with the Perverted Justice alias. In the end, the guy was found to have been in possession of quite a bit of child pornography but NBC still ended up settling with his family.
Thank you. Thought I support prosecution, this has so many problems that it is why I'd never watch the show again.
Haven't watched Dateline or Chris Hansen since.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:17 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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What does this have to do with the show outing child predators?

This sounds like a deflection tactic
It goes against his credibility, rather illustrates him as a hypocrite especially when he sits people down.

Ie, take it like this. I once heard an Army Colonel say, "I will have no officer in my command who cheats on his wife. If he is lying to her, how do I know that he won't lie to me?".

If in anything else, can one really trust a man who stood at the altar and made a vow to his God, assuming it was a religious ceremony, who then lies and breaks that vow to his God.....................................

...............................to place his hand on his sacred text in court?

Now, Hansen is not in court but we are talking about legal proceedings of some sort here. Further, we are talking about motivations of some based on sexual desires. Supposedly, the host can't control his either, it's just in another ball park.



As a sting operation, it is one thing.

As a news organisation program, however, it is another matter. As other news agencies have observed, there is a difference between reporting the news and making the news. For if in anything else, consider the possibility of hits Perverted Justice received that were broken off when the age was verified.

Are they reporting the news.....or are they just reporting the stuff to make the blood boil, to get people to watch?

Where's the line of going too far, news wise? Probably when Hansen sits them down for his own private interview. To me, that's not news but sensationalism to boost the ratings.

I'm fine when a police agency does things like this, primarily because they know the rules and limits they must follow (at least in theory).

I'm not too crazy about it when private groups are the organizers, the runners of the operation, especially a news corporation. It's too easy for them to lose sight about the procedures of law, of what the real goal is.

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Old 04-21-2015, 04:09 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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What happened between Hanson and his wife is their business. It had nothing to do with child perverts and it shouldn't have impacted TCAP. That program got tons of child predators off our streets, as well as inform us all of how huge the problem is. Teachers, pastors, coaches,,,you can't trust anybody anymore. I want TCAP to come back.
I know. It was interesting that the men involved would be of any age, I.Q., background or race and just shows how widespread the problem is, being possibly anyone you'd see. I wonder how much that series had impacted men so that there was a reduction of incidents or if impulses have continued to take precedence. It would be helpful to get to the root of what causes men to so such things.
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Old 04-21-2015, 04:33 AM
 
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I actually find Chris Hansen creepy. He enjoys his job WAY too much, IMO.
Uh, maybe he just likes being involved in the process of catching those capable of harming innocent teens, which apparently, there are too many of and need to be derailed.
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Old 04-21-2015, 05:51 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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It goes against his credibility, rather illustrates him as a hypocrite especially when he sits people down.

If in anything else, can one really trust a man who stood at the altar and made a vow to his God, assuming it was a religious ceremony, who then lies and breaks that vow to his God.............to place his hand on his sacred text in court?

Now, Hansen is not in court but we are talking about legal proceedings of some sort here. Further, we are talking about motivations of some based on sexual desires. Supposedly, the host can't control his either, it's just in another ball park.
Having an affair with another adult, surely is not appropriate for someone married, but we also do not know what was happening within his marriage, but not to justify things. However, adult "sexual desires" with another adult on a mutual level cannot be compared to what some males' motivation is to seduce or be forceful with a pre-teen or teen, which is not actually sexual desire, but acting out some "self-serving, pornographic compulsion". These guys arrive with an intent, some bringing items with them they expect to employ, being excited at the thought of being with a child. (They should be caught).

I know there are a handful here who hope to make some justification of this show's host being hypocritical due to a dishonest move in his personal life, but this is truly not the same thing. Like so much else, a person has a choice whether to watch this show or not.
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Old 04-21-2015, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Having an affair with another adult, surely is not appropriate for someone married, but we also do not know what was happening within his marriage, but not to justify things. However, adult "sexual desires" with another adult on a mutual level cannot be compared to what some males' motivation is to seduce or be forceful with a pre-teen or teen, which is not actually sexual desire, but acting out some "self-serving, pornographic compulsion". These guys arrive with an intent, some bringing items with them they expect to employ, being excited at the thought of being with a child. (They should be caught).

I know there are a handful here who hope to make some justification of this show's host being hypocritical due to a dishonest move in his personal life, but this is truly not the same thing. Like so much else, a person has a choice whether to watch this show or not.
Who's mutual level?

His? Probably. Hers? Probably.

His wife's?..............odds are at that point, it is not so "mutual" or "consenting adults" as one might believe it to be.

In any rate, I think he's just another self serving newsman where the ends justify the means. Would one watch the show as much if it proceeded as a police operation does? I do believe he is involved in making the news, not reporting it. Yes, there are those people out there, but I believe he hypes up the display so to make his ratings. If not, then we should just have the person walk into the house and the cops to bust them, not have this "interview".

After all, if he lies to his wife, how do I know he is not lying to me?

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Old 04-21-2015, 06:25 AM
 
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However, adult "sexual desires" with another adult on a mutual level cannot be compared to what some males' motivation is to seduce or be forceful with a pre-teen or teen, which is not actually sexual desire, but acting out some "self-serving, pornographic compulsion".
I don't think there is any difference between a "sexual desire" and a "pornagraphic compulsion". Pedophiles have desires and/or compulsions like other people, but for an inapproriate object.

There are lots of odd sexual fetishes. Maybe one day we will understand the workings of the brain well enough to figure out why they happen.
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Old 04-21-2015, 06:44 AM
 
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Who's mutual level?

His? Probably. Hers? Probably.

His wife's?..............odds are at that point, it is not so "mutual" or "consenting adults" as one might believe it to be.

In any rate, I think he's just another self serving newsman where the ends justify the means.

Would one watch the show as much if it proceeded as a police operation does?

After all, if he lies to his wife, how do I know he is not lying to me?
* Between he and the woman he cheated with.

* Of course, the person being cheated on did not "give their consent".

* Self-serving newsman? Not sure what that means. Obviously, he is involved in the business, but I don't really consider this "News", as suggested, but more of an Expose'. Not so different from the guy on "Catfish", exposing those who are not being upfront, initiating relationships based upon fake, online personas.

* There is a procedure, the police are aware of what is going during each instance. (Not sure what you mean).

* How exactly is it he would be lying to you?
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Old 04-21-2015, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The network may have been ok with cancelling the show for reasons other than his public shame. This shows nature probably exposed the network to a greater amount of lawsuits and settlements than other, just as profitable shows that filled the time slot. If you have a choice between show A that brings in say 20 million yet exposes you to potential lawsuits, and show B that brings in 20 million yet DOESNT expose you to potential lawsuits....what are you going to pick.
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Old 04-21-2015, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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TCAP should have been using the internet to get groups of parents and fathers and others who traffic children and photos and videos not entrapping individuals, that is so time consuming and why even a show? Just join an enforcement agency and get money to help in their operation.
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