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Old 12-06-2016, 09:21 AM
 
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There was an old timer, enlisted US Navy, that put his uniform on and marched in every local parade. He wore a US Navy Seals Badge. I knew he had been in the navy before the Seals were formed (1962). I thought about challenging him but he was always first to march and show patriotism so I let it go.
I wonder if the SEAL might not be a modern incarnation of some kind of less formalized earlier special fighting group.
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Old 12-06-2016, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I wonder if the SEAL might not be a modern incarnation of some kind of less formalized earlier special fighting group.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underw...emolition_Team
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:28 AM
 
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So maybe that was not a SEAL badge the old guy was wearing, but a UDT badge. Or if he couldn't find a UDT badge, he substituted a SEAL badge:





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Old 12-06-2016, 01:12 PM
 
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So maybe that was not a SEAL badge the old guy was wearing, but a UDT badge. Or if he couldn't find a UDT badge, he substituted a SEAL badge.
It looks like the SEALs added the eagle to the UDT badge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underw...molition_Badge

"During the Vietnam War, the Underwater Demolition Badge was issued side by side with the Special Warfare Badge (SEAL Badge). By 1975, the Underwater Demolition Badge had been declared obsolete and was no longer issued for uniform wear. Service members who had previously held the Underwater Demolition Badge could apply for the award of the SEAL Badge in lieu of the obsolete decoration.
The Underwater Demolition Badge appears as a crossed anchor, trident and pistol insignia. The decoration is identical to the Special Warfare Badge with the exception of the eagle upon which the SEAL badge is based."

It looks like the old guy could legitimately wear the SEAL badge if he was originally UDT.
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Old 12-06-2016, 01:55 PM
 
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It looks like the SEALs added the eagle to the UDT badge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underw...molition_Badge

"During the Vietnam War, the Underwater Demolition Badge was issued side by side with the Special Warfare Badge (SEAL Badge). By 1975, the Underwater Demolition Badge had been declared obsolete and was no longer issued for uniform wear. Service members who had previously held the Underwater Demolition Badge could apply for the award of the SEAL Badge in lieu of the obsolete decoration.
The Underwater Demolition Badge appears as a crossed anchor, trident and pistol insignia. The decoration is identical to the Special Warfare Badge with the exception of the eagle upon which the SEAL badge is based."

It looks like the old guy could legitimately wear the SEAL badge if he was originally UDT.
There you go. Issue settled.


And that's an example of why we can't go jumping on old guys who we think are wearing things wrong.
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Old 12-06-2016, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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It looks like the SEALs added the eagle to the UDT badge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underw...molition_Badge

"During the Vietnam War, the Underwater Demolition Badge was issued side by side with the Special Warfare Badge (SEAL Badge). By 1975, the Underwater Demolition Badge had been declared obsolete and was no longer issued for uniform wear. Service members who had previously held the Underwater Demolition Badge could apply for the award of the SEAL Badge in lieu of the obsolete decoration.
The Underwater Demolition Badge appears as a crossed anchor, trident and pistol insignia. The decoration is identical to the Special Warfare Badge with the exception of the eagle upon which the SEAL badge is based."

It looks like the old guy could legitimately wear the SEAL badge if he was originally UDT.
Is this old guy Governor Ventura?
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Old 12-06-2016, 05:25 PM
 
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Is this old guy Governor Ventura?
You'll have to ask johngolf!
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Old 12-06-2016, 07:59 PM
 
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I wonder if the SEAL might not be a modern incarnation of some kind of less formalized earlier special fighting group.
A similar thing happened to actor/rapper Ice-T. In Vietnam Long Range Recon Patrols, Lurps were official made into Provisional Ranger Companies in that period before Ranger battalions were reintroduced to the Army. "Ranger" sounding better than "lurp" in official communications. When he joined the Army he was in the last Infantry Division still configured to fight in Vietnam and not in Germany an was assigned to their long range recon patrol unit and came to be called Ranger even though he was not in one of the 75th Ranger Regiment battalions or a Ranger School graduate but in the unit doing the same job as the provisional Rangers. Today there descendants in similar type divisional units tend to be all Ranger School graduates but don't take the "Ranger" name.
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