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Extreme response, but if you feel your 14 year old is equal to an adult, that's your business.
Its not about being equal to an adult, it is about the training process to be an adult.
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I was trying to explain why many of us feel otherwise, but I obviously struck a nerve.
Well of course you've struck a nerve. As a parent I've seen my daughter handle high risk situations that others of her age group reduced to paralysis because they never had to confront a crisis on their own, or worse, trips to the therapist because of anxiety attacks when left to fend for them selves as young adults.
Its not about being equal to an adult, it is about the training process to be an adult.
Well of course you've struck a nerve. As a parent I've seen my daughter handle high risk situations that others of her age group reduced to paralysis because they never had to confront a crisis on their own, or worse, trips to the therapist because of anxiety attacks when left to fend for them selves as young adults.
Like I always say, there are exceptions to everything. A very small percentage of teens are like you're daughter, which you already know given what you've written about other teens. People who keep writing that teens are ready at fourteen if they hae experience, really do not know what they're talking about. Most teens are not ready, even WITH experience because of the reasons I cited in my previous post.
And when you throw them in situations like flying a plane, being out on a boat, mountain climbing, conditions can change so rapidly that even seasoned pilots, boat owners and climbers get caught off guard and can lose their lives.
These two boys either were not as educated as everyone thought, or they would know a boat that size has no business in the ocean, or they were not as trustworthy as everyone thought. If it's the latter, then they are typical teens, and it's sad to see their lives cut short like this.
People who keep writing that teens are ready at fourteen if they hae experience, really do not know what they're talking about.
Frankly, I think that they are far more aware of what they are talking about than you. The fact is that there are plenty of real world examples of specific 14 year olds who have indeed shown shown specific experience at accomplishing specific activities. As a result, we aren't speaking about "most teens." In the case of these two boys almost everyone who have defended the parents have done so with specific caveats, that being, the ability to boat around a heavily trafficked inner waterway on their own.
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And when you throw them in situations like flying a plane, being out on a boat, mountain climbing, conditions can change so rapidly that even seasoned pilots, boat owners and climbers get caught off guard and can lose their lives.
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Thrown? No one is throwing anyone into these situations. The parents to these two young men didn't allow much less thrown them into open waters in a 19 foot fishing boat. They were given specific limits for their activity. Limits that were set by according to the limits of their skills and experience.
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These two boys either were not as educated as everyone thought, or they would know a boat that size has no business in the ocean, or they were not as trustworthy as everyone thought. If it's the latter, then they are typical teens, and it's sad to see their lives cut short like this.
No one thought that they were "educated" enough to venture into open water, but their parents thought that they were trustworthy enough to stay within the limits that were set for them. How one guarantees that your children will remain within those limits is the great parental unknowable. But because that is unknowable is no excuse from prohibiting your child from encountering any and every potential danger especially those that are not inherently dangerous to begin with. By your argument, teenagers should be prohibited from skateboarding, bike riding, pool jumping or any one of a hundred mundane activities, that could get them killed due to a lack of judgement as any number of YouTube videos will attest.
Of course we could just wait until they are 20 year olds with mature brains, zero supervised experience, and even fewer skills, examples of which can also be found on YouTube.
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TheWiseWino, I agree with you on most things you've posted, with the exception of this. We could continue going round and round and wouldn't get anywhere. Instead of addressing the ridiculous claims of what my position means, I'll end it here.
Frankly, I think that they are far more aware of what they are talking about than you. The fact is that there are plenty of real world examples of specific 14 year olds who have indeed shown shown specific experience at accomplishing specific activities..
The example that counts here is 2 missing teens presumed dead. Doesn't matter what others did and got away with.
Your excuse is that the Parents told them, not to go out in the Ocean and the Boys agreed? And you think his is the first time in their lives they ever did not do what they where supposed to do? Their first Rodeo?
The fact they aren't here kind of points out who knows what they are talking about.
TheWiseWino, I agree with you on most things you've posted, with the exception of this. We could continue going round and round and wouldn't get anywhere. Instead of addressing the ridiculous claims of what my position means, I'll end it here.
It was interesting.
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