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BTW, Florida does not have an Enhanced DL but I suppose with all the ID they want every time, they are probably in compliance.
Florida is a REAL ID compliant state.
The Florida DMV lists October 1, 2020 as the date when a driver's license from a noncompliant state will not be enough to board a federally regulated commercial aircraft.
If this is the case, they need to make getting a passport take less than a month and less $$. I never had one and husband's expired a couple of years ago. First we would need to go somewhere that takes the proper sized photo for each passport, then make an appointment at a post office that handles passports. Go to that appointment, pay over $500 for two passports and wait 3 to 6 weeks.
Here's some crazy logic: To get a passport I'll first need to get a certified copy of my birth certificate. And to get a copy of my birth certificate I need only to submit a COPY of my driver's license...a copy, no face-to-face, is-that-really-you! SO...a NY DL isn't good enough for flying but it IS good enough to get a birth certificate which gets me a passport which allows me to fly. This makes me dizzy!
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Looks like everybody either missed or ignore the stupidity of this.
Here's some crazy logic: To get a passport I'll first need to get a certified copy of my birth certificate. And to get a copy of my birth certificate I need only to submit a COPY of my driver's license...a copy, no face-to-face, is-that-really-you! SO...a NY DL isn't good enough for flying but it IS good enough to get a birth certificate which gets me a passport which allows me to fly. This makes me dizzy!
I'm trying to understand what's so "crazy" about this. If you are ordering a birth certificate to get your passport, that means you WERE BORN in that state, which makes you a US Citizen. Just because you have a driver's license does not mean you were born in that state, or any state for that matter. Plenty of people born in foreign countries hold US drivers' licenses and therefore would not be able to use their license to order a birth certificate... because there is no birth certificate to order.
So I think you are the one with the faulty logic.
Please let me know if I have somehow misunderstood you, but it seems to me that you're thinking only of yourself and those like you -- people who were born in this country and therefore actually have a birth certificate they could order with their driver's license. There is another huge category of people who can't do that.
According to the TSA all of this worry and hand wringing is for naught which makes me wonder what the "real" agenda is in forcing people to get a enhanced ID. Same with a passport to return from a visit to Canada or Mexico. NOT REQUIRED.
TSA Travel Tips Tuesday – Can You Fly Without an ID?
While it is much easier to go through screening with the proper identification, you’re not going to cause a snafu if you don’t have it.
If you’re 17 or younger, no problem… you don’t need ID to travel. If you’re 18 or older, no worries… you can still travel.
REAL ID enforcement is set to start sometime in 2016.
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Originally Posted by OrganicSmallHome
Last time I flew from MA to NC--two weeks ago--I needed to show only my driver's license.
REAL ID Phase 4 enforcement is set to start sometime in 2016. Probably on November 9th.
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Originally Posted by jimj
While it is much easier to go through screening with the proper identification, you’re not going to cause a snafu if you don’t have it.
Correct.
Even next year, you would be allowed to fly without ID, but as always anybody attempting this is required to undergo the "it's not just meant to humiliate you, that's a side-effect" secondary screening.
Last edited by Nonesuch; 09-26-2015 at 10:14 AM..
Reason: You still have a right to fly without ID. Just not without hassle and a freedom grope
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