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I never believed that I had the right to inflict my children's bad behavior on the general public. 10 month olds were left with sitters. When the children were old enough to be able to control themselves, they would accompany us to restaurants. Misbehavior would immediately result in either myself or their mother taking them out to the car for a mild attitude adjustment, and then back in to the restaurant. This only happened a couple of times before there were no more problems.
Relatively young children are very capable of learning how to behave appropriately in public. If not, they are left home.
That this thread has gone 25 pages with plenty of support for the mother with the yelling baby is a sad commentary on the general state of society.
Wow, so many here who hate children. Dont want to be around children the. Don't go out to public places. Just stay home and order delivery. YOU cannot stop children from eating at a restaurant, but you can choose to stop leaving your home. I hope those haters here have been spayed or neutered.
not a matter of hating children, the point is a parent subjecting other people to her 10 month old constant screams and cries....the basic concept of consideration seems to have escaped you
Oh, they can go out to dinner. But, if one of their children starts acting inappropriately then one of the adults needs to remove them from the restaurant until they settle down. That is what generations before you did. Your child should not be my burden. I took care of my children and did everything in my power to make sure they weren't a nuisance to others because I was the one who decided to give birth to them, not everyone else sitting in the restaurant. They didn't sign up to deal with my noisy child. I understood the universe did not revolve around me or my child.
Interestingly enough, this is the natural consequence that allows them to make the connection between their behavior and the ability to eat in a restaurant as they grow.
I never believed that I had the right to inflict my children's bad behavior on the general public. 10 month olds were left with sitters. When the children were old enough to be able to control themselves, they would accompany us to restaurants. Misbehavior would immediately result in either myself or their mother taking them out to the car for a mild attitude adjustment, and then back in to the restaurant. This only happened a couple of times before there were no more problems.
Relatively young children are very capable of learning how to behave appropriately in public. If not, they are left home.
That this thread has gone 25 pages with plenty of support for the mother with the yelling baby is a sad commentary on the general state of society.
Not everyone has access to a baby sitter all the time. Some things can only be done while with the child like check ups. I've been in restaurants with kids behaving like this. Instead of getting annoyed and angry, I try to make the kid laugh and smile. If the parent is making an effort, she has my sympathy. I have to listen to the kid for a few minutes. She has to listen to such behavior all the time. According to the story she had been making the effort. So I guess you want all children to either be at home or school until they fully develop a sense of personal self control to your liking. Even some adults don't have that level of self control.
not a matter of hating children, the point is a parent subjecting other people to her 10 month old constant screams and cries....the basic concept of consideration seems to have escaped you
According to the article, he had not been constantly screaming and crying. Those were your words.
"He will yell when I tell him no, when he's super excited and happy or just for no reason at all," Leach wrote on a Facebook post to KTVB-TV. "I'm doing my best to teach him indoor voice and to not yell back at me when telling him no etc, But he is only 10 (almost 11 months) and LEARNING."
Yup. He is learning that he can yell in a restaurant and Mom is not going to do anything about it.
Not everyone has access to a baby sitter all the time. Some things can only be done while with the child like check ups. I've been in restaurants with kids behaving like this. Instead of getting annoyed and angry, I try to make the kid laugh and smile. If the parent is making an effort, she has my sympathy. I have to listen to the kid for a few minutes. She has to listen to such behavior all the time. According to the story she had been making the effort. So I guess you want all children to either be at home or school until they fully develop a sense of personal self control to your liking. Even some adults don't have that level of self control.
how about trying to make the child happy, after 5 or 10 mins, and the child continues to wail away, pack the child up and get your food to go....yes, the parent should be more inconvenienced than the other diners, thats the way it is....again, common courtesy and consideration
According to the article, he had not been constantly screaming and crying. Those were your words.
Since the article did not include any interviews with the two women who allegedly wrote the note, it gives only the mother's and the sympathetic manager's side of the story. The mother admits the child was yelling and it's very likely that the yelling was going on longer and more loudly than she wants to say.
Not everyone has access to a baby sitter all the time. Some things can only be done while with the child like check ups. I've been in restaurants with kids behaving like this. Instead of getting annoyed and angry, I try to make the kid laugh and smile. If the parent is making an effort, she has my sympathy. I have to listen to the kid for a few minutes. She has to listen to such behavior all the time. According to the story she had been making the effort. So I guess you want all children to either be at home or school until they fully develop a sense of personal self control to your liking. Even some adults don't have that level of self control.
Then it should be childrens themed eateries and takeout until the kids are old enough to behave
Not everyone has access to a baby sitter all the time. Some things can only be done while with the child like check ups. I've been in restaurants with kids behaving like this. Instead of getting annoyed and angry, I try to make the kid laugh and smile. If the parent is making an effort, she has my sympathy. I have to listen to the kid for a few minutes. She has to listen to such behavior all the time. According to the story she had been making the effort. So I guess you want all children to either be at home or school until they fully develop a sense of personal self control to your liking. Even some adults don't have that level of self control.
That's not a reason to inflict your ("you" in the general sense) child's unruly behavior on other people.
There are several options...
1. Kid themed restaurants
2. Order In
3. Cook at Home
My parents left us at home (for several years duration, while we were very young) with our older sister when they went out to eat. If she was unavailable, then they didn't go out.
The decision to have children is one many people make. No one makes that decision for them. The decision to take the potentially loud, yelling, screaming, unruly children out, again, is a choice. No one makes that decision for them.
Last edited by erjunkee; 10-12-2015 at 02:35 PM..
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