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Old 10-12-2015, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I did.
Unfortunately for you ... nowhere in section 6 of that tome did it show a requirement to list the 5 pillars of Islam or listen to an Islamic prayer. It does list other items to teach. You seem oblivious to the mothers complaint. O well.
For the record, El Nox NEVER, EVER talked about destroying "the minds of your children". Apparently that appeared in another post ... but since you placed this after I stated that I could not load the actual curriculum guide, it only seems logical that you are addressing me. I still do not know what the State standard is ... this is merely a teachers guide and does not address the standard.
El Nox
Yes, I am oblivious to the mother's complaint, it is baseless, and it's part of an ongoing myth about school children being indoctrinated in Islamic doctrine. Google it, this crap started in 2001, then it died down but periodically resurfaces. Most of it starts on some RWNJ website like Info Wars then finds it's way to the main stream media where it persists for a day or so and then is forgotten. It's really much ado about nothing, your kids will not become jihadists any more than they will become Buddhist monks when they learn about Buddhism.
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Old 10-12-2015, 03:59 PM
 
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Very challenging to teach world history and ignore religion.

Christian denominations are relatively new compared to Hinduism, Buddhism and Judaism.

Of the more than 40,000 Christian denominations in the US, most are relatively new in terms of world history.
It's easy to teach world history and geography to 6th and 7th graders, mainly 11 and 12 year-olds without getting into the Pillars of Islam or the Resurrection, or the lives of Jesus and Muhammad, etc.
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Old 10-12-2015, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Everything you just said is happening in a lot of countries. We have a lot of foreign educated people here for many reasons including giving a lot of them opportunities they either didn't have or would have a very hard time achieving.
That may be true, but this is the only one that claims its due to the lack of finding qualified people to take those jobs. Not so much about giving them opportunities, since they are already educated when they come here.
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Old 10-12-2015, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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I went to school in the 60s in California and we had a segment in social studies class devoted to world religion in both the 8th and 12th grade. I'm not sure why learning about the faith of other people threatens you so much...
Its likely because they don't understand it so they "Demonize" just like every thing else they don't understand.
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Old 10-12-2015, 04:19 PM
 
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That may be true, but this is the only one that claims its due to the lack of finding qualified people to take those jobs. Not so much about giving them opportunities, since they are already educated when they come here.
In some cases there is lack of qualified people with the right skills. This is not unique to the United States. On the other side of the world like in Asia you would find quite a few countries that love to import high skilled immigrants and in some cases give preference to those that hold certain skills like in Engineering.

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Old 10-12-2015, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Often a function of the reduced wages/employee costs companies can pay when they off-shore jobs/production/help desks to places like India, or a company's financial incentive to flood a market with imported STEM workers who will accept reduced wages for their commodotized tech skills, while their American counterparts move into higher paid STEM areas (requiring different creative/soft skill sets that are arguably better fostered in American schools) - e.g. finance/exec management/sales engineer jobs vs lower paid programming/help desk/lab jobs.
That may be true for a select few, but does not explain all the jobs these imported people hold. If that where the real reason, there would be more Americans, and American Graduates, working in these, what you claim are "Lower" jobs in R&D Labs, Programming, and other high tech jobs, instead of working at McDonalds and claiming they can't find jobs.

By the way, the Jobs you mentioned, and claim are at the "Top" are, for the most part, non productive Jobs, and very few of those are higher paid, unless you are exceptional, and that isn't most of our work force. To be fair, a lot of it is the Students fault, because most are not willing to dedicate the time it takes to qualify for high paid Jobs, that foreign Students spend on education as a norm. So we fall behind...
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Old 10-12-2015, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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Really? So before Jesus was born, yet it's a biblical symbol of Christmas??
You can't make this stuff up.

Everything about Christmas as its practiced is wrong in terms of the historical Jesus.
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Old 10-12-2015, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Interesting but laughable. You use multiple examples of how WE offend them and ignore how THEY offend us. I will only use one example ... How about the US Army sergeant they are trying to throw out of the military because he stopped a Muzzie from continuing to rape a boy. Don't hand me the clap-trap about there were no orders given to protect the kid. Even though there is a lunatic fringe of our population who would cheer that horses pootie on, the rest of us do not. By the way, the Muzzies don't give a rats azz about OUR religion nor do they respect our beliefs.

El Nox

Interesting but laughable. You use multiple examples of how They offend us and ignore how We offend them.


You said: "How about the US Army sergeant they are trying to throw out of the military because he stopped a Muzzie from continuing to rape a boy"

And your saying what? That this Country is free of "Registered Sex Offenders" and Pedophiles? All Countries have sick people, but I am sure we have more than what our share should be.

You have no case for anything.
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Old 10-12-2015, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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In some cases there is lack of qualified people with the right skills. This is not unique to the United States. On ther side of the world like in Asia you would find quite a few countries that love to import high skilled immigrants and in some cases give preference to those that hold certain skills like in Engineering.
No doubt, and I agree, but we should not be in the same class as other Countries. WE should be at the top of that list, and the "go to" country if some one needed these people. Our Schools have been "Dumbed Down" far enough, to allow below average Students to hold the rest back, without some Quack Parent sticking their noses into it.
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Old 10-12-2015, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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I'll bet that if that teacher had assigned something similar but for Christianity instead of Islam, she'd be fired so fast her head would spin. Let's just face reality. It's now become very politically correct to support Islam in schools while at the same time minimize (at best) anything Christian. It's another price we pay for having a public school system including teachers that are very left wing in many parts of the country.



And a public school system funded by a progressively minded federal government. Take down the Christmas trees and mangers so our country can be dismantled beginning with the core beliefs of most of the population.
Notice I didn't insert any percentiles; none factual are available.

For some reason it's anti PC to have an aversion to Islam. Is Satanism the same?
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