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Again, easier just to bypass the comments instead of ginning up outrage that won't do anything, especially when you realize it wasn't a serious comment.
People DO joke (and make serious nasty comments) about events that killed my "loved ones" frequently aka Hitler's extermination of jews.
If I allowed everything said outrage me I'd NEVER get any sleep or peace...
Then those people are asshats. If you tolerate that, that's on you.
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Originally Posted by Old Guard
First the location does matter.
Fine, let's start with your house. Never did like Fairfax. Too many gun-humpers there. Crop-dusting will show them that their guns are ineffectual. They need a little wake-up call. Yep, boy howdy.
A couple of people have posted references to Dresden [carpet and fire bombing], returning to WWII tactics, and even testing the imperial colonizing theory in the Middle East.
You have raised interesting concepts.
The problem with colonizing the Middle East is they don't have anything we want anymore, because we have as much or more oil as they do. The are also a thoroughly different culture. Not thinking colonizing the place would work.
Flattening Raqqa a'la Dresden? That kind of aggression does win wars and - not surprisingly - is now considered a war crime (because of the number of civilians who would necessarily be killed). That's why we didn't flatten Hanoi during Vietnam - the war the US lost.
But here is another lesson we learned in WWII: civilians are responsible for their governments. When it came time to take the bodies out of the concentration camps, allied forces made the German citizens do it - because they allowed their government to commit the atrocities.
So should the civilians in Raqqa (and the other ISIS-held areas of Syria and Iraq) be held accountable for their government and die along with them, or should they be rescued from their oppressors?
Interesting conundrum...
Yes, it is an interesting conundrum, however, when your dealing with a group like ISIS or Al Qada (who don't give a damn about war crimes) your going to have to show them that their action will not be tolerated. You give them NO safe haven. If the goal it to destroy ISIS, then by all means destroy them, you not going to destroy them with rhetoric.
Fine, let's start with your house. Never did like Fairfax. Too many gun-humpers there. Crop-dusting will show them that their guns are ineffectual. They need a little wake-up call. Yep, boy howdy.
Sure, I am not scared of internet threats. If this was written better I may have found it funny but it is just sad.
Maybe we should stop being an imperial force the world over and American blood won't be the sweetest blood. It's so funny when people make the claim that these terrorist attacks are because they are jealous of our western way of life when that couldn't be further from the truth.
We aren't an imperial force. it could be argued that we sometimes have too much involvement in the Middle East, but we aren't imperialists.
Having said that, ISIS and their ideology has far more to do with Islam and us. We're just a convenient excuse for them.
Why is there no group from other religions?
Yes, religion is not to blame... blah blah blah...
Meh, other religions have their nutcases, too. At different points in history, different nutcases from different religions were more pronounced than others. See: The Inquisition, Salem Witch Trials, etc.
There's always the debate about whether it's religion the interpretation of religion. But religion is a human construct, so I'm going with both. Humans created religion, and have wielded it and used it as justification for some heinous things throughout history. I think the world would be better off without religion entirely, precisely because of the things people do to each other in its name and I'd be okay with one less opportunity for exclusion and ignorance, but that's just me.
Why is there no group from other religions?
Yes, religion is not to blame... blah blah blah...
There were times in the past where religions did terrible things to non-belivers, however, most of those religions have gone through reformations that delt with the problem of fanatics.
It's high time that Islam does the same. Muslims need to band together to reform their fanatic groups into a more moderate group, for they are the only ones that can accomplish this. Fanatic Islam is a world wide problem and it may just have to take the world as a whole to force them into not allowing fanatic Islam exist.
What do you think would would happen if, countries refused to do business with Islamic countries that harbor Islamic extremist? Economics can go a long way in changing one attitude.
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