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It only took 12 years to go from freedom fries to Francophiles.
And it's still lost on those same geniuses that in 2003 what France was saying was:
1) There are no 'vast stockpiles' of WMD [and there weren't, as even the Bush administration conceded before it slunk off into infamy]
2) Saddam Hussein is contained [as he was] and is not a threat [true - the "He's about to attack us!" idiocy was just that]
3) Invading Iraq won't result in a flowering of Middle Eastern democracy [as the idiots claimed] but in a destabilizing power vacuum [it did, and ISIS filled that vacuum]
But expecting enough introspection from the reactionaries to learn anything from even their recent catastrophic screw-ups is expecting way too much.
All the radicalized mosques do is preach hate. They are a breeding ground for terrorism. If the leaders of the mosque are preaching hate toward the country they reside in or any allies , then they should be shut down immediately.
Theres a difference between freedom of speech , and preaching destruction of western countries.
Even in America, freedoms of speech, religion, press and assembly are not ABSOLUTE …
if you come to france, don't go to paris, come elsewhere first, in the southwest where i live for example. i don't really care if people dislike us, i'm born with this knowledge and always assume everyone hates me unless they say they don't. the sad thing here is that too many people believe lies and stereotypes, they go to france (paris), met someone, had a bad experience with him/her, and go back home soon after and tell everyone, but the thing is, that to me it's not suprising, you can make the stereotypes comes true, you just have to come with the good attitudes, be rude, direspectful, like i said before, considering paris like your backyard, speak english to everyone, complain about everything, oh it's not like that in the US, oh this was better at home. problem is, people hate us/dislike us, for things of the past, or for things our government do/did and we have no control over, this is, to me, very stupid. i met plenty of "bad americans" here, full of stereotypes, but still, in the end, i'm not generalizing, like some english speaking people like so much to do and i'm always glad to met a nice and open minded american on the internet. i guess irl things are different, here it's easier to tell what you think, you don't have to hide your feelings.
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Some of us in America understand that the arrogance of, say, Charles de Gaulle, did not truly represent "France," but the spirit of LaFayette DOES ...
I lost respect for de Gaulle when he visited Canada and rudely endorsed the secession of Quebec (1967) ...
i said he was proud, not that he didn't do any mistakes lol. i guess many young french people like me don't understand this, i wasn't born at this time at all, so for me it's old, it's in the past and if everyone keeps getting back to that, the relation between countries can't get any better.
And it's still lost on those same geniuses that in 2003 what France was saying was:
1) There are no 'vast stockpiles' of WMD [and there weren't, as even the Bush administration conceded before it slunk off into infamy]
2) Saddam Hussein is contained [as he was] and is not a threat [true - the "He's about to attack us!" idiocy was just that]
3) Invading Iraq won't result in a flowering of Middle Eastern democracy [as the idiots claimed] but in a destabilizing power vacuum [it did, and ISIS filled that vacuum]
But expecting enough introspection from the reactionaries to learn anything from even their recent catastrophic screw-ups is expecting way too much.
I have some what different approach ,
a lot of these people are dependent on social services and support .
So every incident any of their kind creates , also creates a drop in services to all of them.
They use the countries resources they occupy till they are broke, that's the plan . it's what they teach.
Remove/reduce the support, and as their continued rebellion causes the more resources to drop they have less to live on and the actions of one,hurt the many a lot more. encouraging self policing .
They failed to do it in their homeland for the lack of discipline ,it is possible they could learn it "IF" the host country has the back bone to fallow it through.
Bleeding heart liberals can go live with them and share their income.
Christians take certain failures seriously and pastors the get in to trouble get tossed out. I've seen it .
We as Christians are not afraid of speaking against something being taught that is not right .
Muslim don't have that liberty , but they should .
I think that regardless of religion, if a place of worship is openly inciting violence, it should be shut down immediately.
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