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It is not like these idiots are hardened criminals, some of them are all but guaranteed to eventually flip on the others. Most of these people would trade their own children for the chance to stay out of prison and be allowed to continue owning guns.
I think you may have hit on a pretty serious motivating factor, there.
I think it's odd that Randy Weaver was mentioned in a prior post, Randy was known locally as a colorful nut case who continuously ragged on the government that he claimed was "overstepping their boundaries". Most people know that our laws set boundaries for all, well, with the exception of Randy and his family apparently.
Loaded for Bear, Bible in hand, he hung around Richard Butler's Idaho compound hoping to fit in with another group of paranoids, The Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations. That group had it's share of miscreants to be sure, and Randy, unlike his neighbors and friends, went there to fraternize with these folks and became known to government agents, and that folks, is how Randy, "the quiet family man" came to that path that eventually led him to that bloodbath on Ruby Ridge.
Randy sacrificed his family in the same manner that "Lavoy" Finicum did by taking on the powers of a well armed and regulated government force, these men, lacking in any real education began to interpret the American constitution in a way that gave them an imagined "right" to whatever their heart's desired. Finicum is now dead, he will soon be forgotten. But the pain he has inflicted upon his family is not the work of a patriot, no sir, it is the result of idiocy and religious beliefs gone awry.
I'm left to wonder just how high the body count will be before these types realize they've taken the wrong path, one that's been noted for it's frequent sightings of the Grim Reaper. Bodies shot to hell with government bullets, scrambled minds, finally at rest, families grieving, the local communities sighing in relief, for what? Strapping on your guns and opening your mouth wide in order that all can hear your complaints, "making a stand," "making a statement," yelling about "overreach" while overreaching, and in the end you simply are one more statistic.
The lesson here should be that when one wants to really know the meaning in our constitution it may well be worth the time and effort to go to school and learn, oh, and leave your guns at home when you begin to shout out to the world all that you see in the constitution that doesn't agree with you...
I think it's odd that Randy Weaver was mentioned in a prior post, Randy was known locally as a colorful nut case who continuously ragged on the government that he claimed was "overstepping their boundaries". Most people know that our laws set boundaries for all, well, with the exception of Randy and his family apparently.
Loaded for Bear, Bible in hand, he hung around Richard Butler's Idaho compound hoping to fit in with another group of paranoids, The Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations. That group had it's share of miscreants to be sure, and Randy, unlike his neighbors and friends, went there to fraternize with these folks and became known to government agents, and that folks, is how Randy, "the quiet family man" came to that path that eventually led him to that bloodbath on Ruby Ridge.
Randy sacrificed his family in the same manner that "Lavoy" Finicum did by taking on the powers of a well armed and regulated government force, these men, lacking in any real education began to interpret the American constitution in a way that gave them an imagined "right" to whatever their heart's desired. Finicum is now dead, he will soon be forgotten. But the pain he has inflicted upon his family is not the work of a patriot, no sir, it is the result of idiocy and religious beliefs gone awry.
I'm left to wonder just how high the body count will be before these types realize they've taken the wrong path, one that's been noted for it's frequent sightings of the Grim Reaper. Bodies shot to hell with government bullets, scrambled minds, finally at rest, families grieving, the local communities sighing in relief, for what? Strapping on your guns and opening your mouth wide in order that all can hear your complaints, "making a stand," "making a statement," yelling about "overreach" while overreaching, and in the end you simply are one more statistic.
The lesson here should be that when one wants to really know the meaning in our constitution it may well be worth the time and effort to go to school and learn, oh, and leave your guns at home when you begin to shout out to the world all that you see in the constitution that doesn't agree with you...
I guess it depends on which side of the fence one sits and their beliefs....and whose story they believe more....
They're ID'd. Easier to pick them up one by one - get back to your house and family and dog, then have someone show up on your doorstep - now you realize just how much you have to lose. A lenient plea deal in return for being a witness for the prosecution may begin to sound appealing.
exactly! The arrests after the Bundy fiasco in Nevada didn't take place until the 'militia' left..the feds waited until they were back home safe and warm playing Call of Duty before they issued warrants.
Yesterday they were posting video of them all ready and willing for a fight. One screaming into the camera "come get some" and telling others to come help and to kill any LEO that tries to stop them.
Today they are "just camping" and "want to go home", and they "just don't understand".
Yesterday they were posting video of them all ready and willing for a fight. One screaming into the camera "come get some" and telling others to come help and to kill any LEO that tries to stop them.
Today they are "just camping" and "want to go home", and they "just don't understand".
I wonder if their understanding of the situation will improve once they start talking with their attorneys.
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Well no. See same video, Mark McConnell was there and he says they took off in their car leading to a chase, and then charging at the police, which led to a shooting.
Again, is video above from the evil media? Hmmm who to believe, an account from one of the occupiers who was arrested in that traffic stop or the guy on a message board who claims to have done his own research which resulted in a link to farmwars.info?
I'll take the guy who was there, thanks.
The guy who was there, yet somehow didn't actually see the shooting? Really? Why is that video cropped so weird? Is it to cut out the agents sitting on either side of him?
Funny how everyone sees them as criminals and jerks and red necks and filth, but then look upon the BLM and Occupy movement with adoration....
effing hypocrites...
What do you suggest we call someone that breaks into a building, destroys public property and threatens to kill police officers? I think criminal is actually one of the kindest terms that can be used to describe the redneck filth that took up arms against our country in the standoff at Moon Pie Masada. If only they had the same courage the Jews displayed in their standoff, we could all agree to call them the dearly departed.
I wonder if their understanding of the situation will improve once they start talking with their attorneys.
It is pretty clear that Ammon Bundy's attorney has been sharing some teachable moments with his client. Ammon is now asking all of the holdouts to go home. I bet it has something to do with his lawyer explaining that if a LEO is injured or killed, he will be making a trip to his celestial kingdom courtesy of a lethal injection provided by the taxpayers.
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