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Old 09-03-2017, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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Originally Posted by Minervah View Post
Where did you see her kicking him? I saw him dragging her because she wasn't walking. He even yelled at her when she said he was hurting her that if she walked she wouldn't get hurt. She was struggling trying to tell him he was making a mistake. Anyone in her position would have been confused because she was doing the right thing.

I almost wished she would have kicked him where it hurt the most.
Don't forget how he tried to knock the phone out of her hand that was on speaker with her supervisor telling the cop he was making a huge mistake threatening her.

 
Old 09-03-2017, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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When being shot and killed ( when not even under arrest) is the norm...I see the officers behavior as typical. Not saying it's right ..Just typical.

I believe the officer said she was impeding/obstructing on an ongoing investigation..And the blood test is one way to determine DUI.

The nurse was protecting the patients constitutional right. Which usually a lawyer would tender...
What investigation???? The patient was not the one who caused the accident, was not under arrest, and there was no warrant. He was NOT the one who caused the accident.

The nurse would have been in deep sh*t had she complied with the cop's order. She and the hospital would have ended up being sued, and she would have lost her job and her license.
 
Old 09-03-2017, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Cop was fired. Good. The tide is turning in this country. Very very slowly but things are changing. 15 years ago nobody recorded that incident and the cop goes on being a bad cop.
 
Old 09-03-2017, 08:49 AM
 
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From what I know about the story, the officer was completely out of line on many levels... That being said, she didn't have to be so prissy about it, she could fight the department, the govt, and maybe that officer in Court afterwards.. saying that she's lucky that she wasn't shot like another commenter said Is kinda rediculious imho though
She was not "prissy" about it. She was following hospital policy and the law and she confirmed her course of action with her supervisor who also spoke to the officer.

Had she chosen not to follow hospital policy:

"say, for instance, you drew the labs on the request of the detective, without a court order or patient consent, and on a patient that wasn’t under arrest — you open yourself up to many potential legal ramifications. These can include a civil lawsuit (battery-no consent), practicing outside of your scope of practice and HIPAA violations."

https://www.nurse.com/blog/2017/09/0...ocking-arrest/

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Old 09-03-2017, 08:59 AM
 
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she didn't have to be so prissy about it, she could fight the department, the govt, and maybe that officer in Court afterwards..
You're suggesting that she should have acquiesced and violated the patient's rights?
I do not agree with you
 
Old 09-03-2017, 09:43 AM
 
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Cop was fired. Good. The tide is turning in this country. Very very slowly but things are changing. 15 years ago nobody recorded that incident and the cop goes on being a bad cop.
Last I read cop was on paid suspension, not fired.
 
Old 09-03-2017, 09:53 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Interesting. Four pages of people who are going to scream, drag their feet, fight the police if they ever get arrested for anything because they think that is the way to behave around the police. Then they are probably going to be properly outraged if they get hurt by behaving that way.

Of course the policeman was totally out of line and he is going to pay for it. Physically resisting him is not the way to behave. No nurse is going to physically overcome a trained police officer. She is lucky she didn't get injured. That's how all those "black lives matter" people get hurt and killed by the police. It comes from resisting arrest.

Go quietly, be safe, let your lawyer handle it.

The officer is going to lose his job and pension, but even the police get to have their due process. That means there is an investigation before they are fired (or jailed)
 
Old 09-03-2017, 10:01 AM
 
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I mentioned this in the thread on P&C.
Seems like much of this could have been stopped sooner if she told him she could not draw a blood sample from a patient without a doctor's order.
Then he would have had to go find one and see how far he would have gotten.
Then she would have been lying. She did an amazing job advocating for her patient and knowing and doing her job. And she isn't even bitter, she accepted the officer's apology.
 
Old 09-03-2017, 10:04 AM
 
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Reading some more posts, I cant believe anyone is putting anything on her. She did everything by the book. She was flawless. Resisting arrest? Come on, she went into panic mode because she had 0 cause to be arrested. How would you react? A angry man coming at you. She was terrified. It wasn't a "ma'am please turn around and place your hands behind your back" arrest, he attacked her.
 
Old 09-03-2017, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Law enforcement is supposed to have probable cause to get a warrant. There was none in this case.
There are several videos of this incident. In one of them one of the other cops can be heard telling this bad cop something like "let's just go back and get a warrant."

But no, big bully cop figured he would be a big shot and get the blood draw right then and there by bullying the nurse. He obviously didn't know who he was dealing with.
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