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Some people have strong morals, and for those people, their opinions go beyond just what the law says and does.
Problem is, those who judge weren't there and don't have all the facts and mitigating circumstances. If this women was a "Multiple MURDERER"...then redemption would be much more difficult to obtain (i would agree).
POINT IS...citizens of a country are held by their societies standards, forced to abide and live by the consequences of their laws (laws of their land). THE FLIP side of coin,...you must also abide by the ruling; in this case, she served 20 yrs for murder----which is a lot more than many murderers serve (but that's beside the point).
Hopefully, those who want MORE PUNISHMENT, will be judged by the measure of their own stick (perhaps in the next life they may come back as a Big Game Giraffe).
Its very sad to see so many people wishing punishment for life nowadays, once a person pays their debt to society, they deserve to start over with a clean slate as much as anyone else , in fact its one of the founding principles of our legal system.
However, what I see today is more mob rule than anything else, once someone is even alleged of a crime, people start off on how they need to be punished in terrible ways, often violent deaths even! Its strange, these are probably people who otherwise claim to be good proud americans, but in reality, they would be happier under a nazi style rule, where even a simple allegation is enough to be put to death.
And by the way, when did so many people become so pro-police/ or pro-govt? They seem to take allegations made by these 2 groups very seriously and pretty much trust everything they say...if police say so and so is guilty of X...well they are 100% guilty then, no need to even have a trial or a court hearing, sadly this is the mentality nowadays, where is people used to take the side of their fellow citizen over police or authority in a heartbeat.
I'll tell you what's "very sad"-- that a four year old child was beaten, abused, neglected, and killed by his mother, then buried by her somewhere like a piece of garbage. The fact that this dame only served 20 years of a 50-year sentence because of "good behavior" and attending college classes at taxpayer expense is nauseating.
Thanks for proving that the anti-death penalty crowd, who for decades have spouted off about how life imprisonment is the better option, had every intention of advocating for the elimination of that, too, as well as for chucking the completion of ANY sentence.
So now we have an entitled, child-killer [w]itch, who's on her way to becoming a perpetual student at universities for which she's not paying a dime, so she can get another degree in a grievance discipline.
There is a very disturbing trend where the murderers of children get less punishment then if they had killed a child. As if the life of a child is not worth the same as that of an adult.
She murdered her own child, she deserves life in prison or the death penalty.
Problem is, those who judge weren't there and don't have all the facts and mitigating circumstances. If this women was a "Multiple MURDERER"...then redemption would be much more difficult to obtain (i would agree).
POINT IS...citizens of a country are held by their societies standards, forced to abide and live by the consequences of their laws (laws of their land). THE FLIP side of coin,...you must also abide by the ruling; in this case, she served 20 yrs for murder----which is a lot more than many murderers serve (but that's beside the point).
Hopefully, those who want MORE PUNISHMENT, will be judged by the measure of their own stick (perhaps in the next life they may come back as a Big Game Giraffe).
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So self-righteous.
Try this thought experiment. Suppose she murdered your child and buried him/her somewhere. Would you say exactly the same thing? She redeemed herself? There's a little boy's corpse somewhere, rotted away. Should be a young man, 24 years old, his whole life ahead of him.
We have an incredibly soft penal system. In China, and honestly in many other parts of the world, she would have been long since executed. Here, she gets off, still rather young, and is given a free ride Ph.D. scholarship at a prestigious university where the professors on the admissions committee simply look past what she's done, as though it's "been there, done that, let's move on".
These same types of professors are incredibly unforgiving when it comes to political dissent, however. They are viciously hounding conservative scholars out of their programs. But a black female "victim" of the penal system is their golden girl who can do no wrong.
Ms. Jones got pregnant at 14 after what she called non-consensual sex with a high-school senior. Her mother responded by beating her in the stomach with a board, according to the prosecutor who later handled her case, and she was placed in a series of group homes and foster families.
In a personal statement accompanying her Harvard application, Ms. Jones said she had a psychological breakdown after years of abandonment and domestic violence, and inflicted similar treatment on her own son, Brandon Sims.
To find a story of actual reform and advancement pretty amazing, too bad it doesn't happen more often. She was raped, probably all along the way and treated viciously by her mother and life. Raised like an animal she acted like an animal. Nobody on this board would have done any better.
Prison is usually just more of the same. I don't want to pay for more incarceration when she isn't a threat to anyone.
Try this thought experiment. Suppose she murdered your child and buried him/her somewhere. Would you say exactly the same thing? She redeemed herself? There's a little boy's corpse somewhere, rotted away. Should be a young man, 24 years old, his whole life ahead of him.
Try this thought experiment. Your child is taken away from you at birth. Taken to the worst of the poor inner city ghetto's. Lives in filth surrounded by drug crazed pyschotics, never clean, never fed, screamed at, hit, kicked, pushed around raped, never a word of care or love. Raped, beaten for years and years and years. That is all your child knows. I mean really go there if you can (which I sort of doubt), imagine the real face of your BABY, your real TODDLER, your real little CHILD, basically tortured day after day after day. Close your eyes, visualize it, minute by minute for years. No care, no hope.
Your childs face, sitting on a filty floor, poopy diaper, red faced from crying, no one paying attention. Toddler, already learning to stay out of the way of adults lest you get beaten. Your childs face on the streets hustiling for food, staying to the corners trying to avoid the violence.
Imagine the face of your raped daughter having a child at 14? 15? And in the endemic violence of that world somehow causes the death of that baby. Probably beaten and injuries ignored, the child dies.
Now image the face of YOUR real daughter in prison who by some 1 in a million miracle has managed to pull her mind together, overcome years of abuse and neglect and learn and become a normalized person. Having really done this, your daughter has served twice the average sentence, is no longer a threat to anyone. What do you want for your daughter?
Try this thought experiment. Your child is taken away from you at birth. Taken to the worst of the poor inner city ghetto's. Lives in filth surrounded by drug crazed pyschotics, never clean, never fed, screamed at, hit, kicked, pushed around raped, never a word of care or love. Raped, beaten for years and years and years. That is all your child knows. I mean really go there if you can (which I sort of doubt), imagine your BABY, your TODDLER, your little CHILD, basically tortured day after day after day. Close your eyes, visualize it, minute by minute for years. No care, no hope.
Having known absolutely nothing else your abused child, crazed like a wounded animal, hurts another.
Oh, I see your point. Let's let the "crazed wounded animal" out because it's not her fault that she murdered and buried her own child.
For which she paid her dues IN THE EYES OF THE LAW. What else do 'you people' (quite a few of these vindictive types on this thread) REALLY want from this person?
How about starting to use some actual brain power here rather than spewing emotional and illogical claptrap?
She paid her "dues" to the legal system for her heinous crime, not society. Decent people are under no obligation to accept much less welcome a child murderer living among them.
Last edited by texan2yankee; 09-19-2017 at 08:33 AM..
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