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Oh, I see your point. Let's let the "crazed wounded animal" out because it's not her fault that she murdered and buried her own child.
You do realize the crazed wounded animal somehow got herself up to the door of NYU doctoral program right? You are open to having any opinion you want but let's not act like she killed her son, took a shower and walked into NYU
Its very sad to see so many people wishing punishment for life nowadays, once a person pays their debt to society, they deserve to start over with a clean slate as much as anyone else, in fact its one of the founding principles of our legal system.
How do you EVER pay your debt to society for murder? How do you EVER pay your debt to the person you MURDERED? How do you EVER pay your debt to the family of the person you MURDERED? This thing KILLED their own child! Life in prison isn't enough. There's NO clean slate when you murder someone. You murder your own child, I honestly believe you should be put to death. You have NO respect for any kind of life. I can't believe any university would knowingly accept a murderer into any program. That's DISGUSTING!
Just to be clear, you wish a woman an eternity in hell because she was raped as a child, then brutally beaten by her mother in an attempt to abort the baby, and abandoned to the foster care system.....and then had a mental break because of all that and confessed to a crime that the police had never even attributed to her?
Wow, I would love to know what made you so perfect. People in glass houses and all that.
She claimed it was non-consensual sex. I find that hard to believe. Many 14 year olds are out there having sex. Did it become non-consensual once she was pregnant? If she was literally forced to have sex, where's the police report? Doctor's visit? I don't buy it.
Many people never confess to crimes, but are found guilty. People also confess to crimes they didn't commit. Yes, I have no problem with her being in hell for an eternity because she MURDERED someone. Her horrible past doesn't give her a free pass in life. She could have gone and gotten professional help. Instead, she chose to murder her son and hide his body....a body that police have NEVER found.
I was abused by my parents throughout my childhood. Spent more time in family court than anyone should. That didn't give me a free pass to go out and do whatever the heck I wanted to do. I have NEVER murdered anyone. I never even thought about it!
You do realize the crazed wounded animal somehow got herself up to the door of NYU doctoral program right? You are open to having any opinion you want but let's not act like she killed her son, took a shower and walked into NYU
What else did she have to do for twenty years...she isn't the only one getting a degree in prison. Sometimes they study law so they can get out of their sentences. Sometimes they do it to try to get released early for good behavior. I don't care if she solves world hunger or cures cancer, she killed her own little boy - the worst of humanity and twisted behavior.
What else did she have to do for twenty years...she isn't the only one getting a degree in prison. Sometimes they study law so they can get out of their sentences. Sometimes they do it to try to get released early for good behavior. I don't care if she solves world hunger or cures cancer, she killed her own little boy - the worst of humanity and twisted behavior.
What else did she have to do? Nothing she could have literally done nothing at all, she could have continued to commit crimes suffice to say it's a lot easier to do a host of other things vs getting prepared to get accepted into a doctoral program. I don't have to agree with her actions to put her in jail, the sentencing or the outcome but she deserves some credit imo. Of course the better outcome would have been for her to serve 50 years to life and drained the tax payer as a repayment to her son
She paid her "dues" to the legal system for her heinous crime, not society. Decent people are under no obligation to accept much less welcome a child murderer living among them.
Wrong.
In a civilized society (as we claim to be), the legal system represents and speaks for "society" in matters regarding crime and justice.
You, as an individual, may not like a particular decision but we, as the greater whole, agree to accept and live by this rule of law (or societal understanding), rather than engage in emotional vigilantism and mob rule.
Now image the face of YOUR real daughter in prison who by some 1 in a million miracle has managed to pull her mind together, overcome years of abuse and neglect and learn and become a normalized person. Having really done this, your daughter has served twice the average sentence, is no longer a threat to anyone. What do you want for your daughter?
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Oh, I see your point. Let's let the "crazed wounded animal" out because it's not her fault that she murdered and buried her own child.
Why confused? 20 years later she has overcome the demons that led to her murdering her child. She has done twice as much time as most for the same crime. She is no longer a threat to society.
Were she your child I think you would agree to let her out. But you don't want to be honest or challenge the easy hate or lack of empathy of your shallow beliefs.
I do not want punishment for life for being a mugger, or driving carelessly and killing somebody, or cheating on your taxes. She brutally murdered her son.
Worse than that, she tortured him, then left him to die.
That said, if she truly has turned her life around, more power to her.
My big problem is that she had 30 years shaved off of her sentence. If you're sentenced to 50, you serve 50. I figure she's got 30 more years of paying the penalty for her evil deed. And if a university wants to keep her out for some of those years, they can.
What else did she have to do for twenty years...she isn't the only one getting a degree in prison. Sometimes they study law so they can get out of their sentences. Sometimes they do it to try to get released early for good behavior. I don't care if she solves world hunger or cures cancer, she killed her own little boy - the worst of humanity and twisted behavior.
Seriously, you probably wouldn't care if she literally solved world hunger or cured cancer but I would.
Because the way I see it, someone who would put enough consideration into solving problems that kill countless people is not the rabid, heartless, uncaring, selfish, homicidal monster that many people are painting this lady to be.
No, she has not solved world hunger or cured cancer but she is proving that she may very well be redeemable as a human being.
I believe the real question is do we as a society have the courage and the conviction of character to live up to our claims of fairness, forgiveness, and second chances is give her a real chance to make the rest of her life a positive testament of redemption.
I am so glad that God offers all of us more grace and mercy than some of us are showing this woman.
Problem is, those who judge weren't there and don't have all the facts and mitigating circumstances. If this women was a "Multiple MURDERER"...then redemption would be much more difficult to obtain (i would agree).
POINT IS...citizens of a country are held by their societies standards, forced to abide and live by the consequences of their laws (laws of their land). THE FLIP side of coin,...you must also abide by the ruling; in this case, she served 20 yrs for murder----which is a lot more than many murderers serve (but that's beside the point).
Hopefully, those who want MORE PUNISHMENT, will be judged by the measure of their own stick (perhaps in the next life they may come back as a Big Game Giraffe).
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There are no "mitigating circumstances" when it comes to torturing, murdering and burying your child. Period. What could possibly justify that?
PS: the "ruling" was 50 years, and she served less than half of that.
I'm perfectly OK being judged in thinking that a mother who tortures and murders her child deserves the full punishment handed to her. And while I admire her determination while in prison, we'll see how well she does outside the walls. It's only been a very short time.
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