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I think if you hear a baby screaming for days it's worth saying something? If someone IS there and the child can be heard by neighbors then the caregiver should probably be doing a better job at soothing the child...for the child's sake, their own and the neighbors. Overall it doesn't seem normal to me to hear a baby crying for days. So sad
We don't know that they heard the baby crying constantly. The Ring cameras outside picked it up but inside they probably didn't hear it. If they heard it sporadically when they went out for the mail or to the store, well no one would think much of that, babies cry.
Not sure I follow that reasoning. If the ring camera OUTSIDE the unit heard the crying then the walls/construction wasn't that stout. So if the noise penetrated an exterior wall it had to penetrate interior walls to the side neighbors.
Maybe it was faint on the Ring audio, but was enough for the cops to make it out and use it in court. Maybe it was an elderly person next door who didn't feel well. Maybe the people next store play their TV loud or play music. There is no reason to start vilifying them when we have no idea of the construct of the neighborhood.
Society as a whole are too afraid of being involved.
And if some one does get involved they suffer liability for helping.
Every time I step in to a situation I weight this possibility.
Ok, clearly the mother isn't a rational thinker. Maybe she believed the child could survive 10 days. Its not like she threw the child into a wood chipper or shot the kid in the head (no chance of survival).
If it was a violent instant death, no chance of survival then yeah you get the same (death penalty).
But if the mom is not all there upstairs, getting caged for life is fine.
There I must disagree with you. Let's say your premise is correct - the mom is not all there upstairs. Given this crime, I would much rather have her put to death.
Maybe it was faint on the Ring audio, but was enough for the cops to make it out and use it in court. Maybe it was an elderly person next door who didn't feel well. Maybe the people next store play their TV loud or play music. There is no reason to start vilifying them when we have no idea of the construct of the neighborhood.
Maybe the cops are adjusted to hearing things like that in their environment that others don't because "it's not their job". I work on a campus next to a wilderness district and after a few years, my nose can pick up the scent of deer and squirrels, maybe rabbits, automatically.
Just because some can "detect" something, doesn't mean all there can.
Just the sound of a crying baby might not be enough to investigate further, call police, family services etc.
What you do if the crying is incessant is call the local police and request a welfare check. At least in my neighborhood, they are happy to do it. The neighbor will never know who called and if there turns out not to be a problem, you will have peace of mind at least. If there IS a problem, you'll be forever glad you intervened.
What you do if the crying is incessant is call the local police and request a welfare check. At least in my neighborhood, they are happy to do it. The neighbor will never know who called and if there turns out not to be a problem, you will have peace of mind at least. If there IS a problem, you'll be forever glad you intervened.
Can you guarantee that? What is your collateral if you are wrong? Long story short, a good deed never goes unpunished and there are plenty of bad people without limits to make that a truism. Think and feel for the risks one might be putting other people in for something they would do if they were there.
Can you guarantee that? What is your collateral if you are wrong? Long story short, a good deed never goes unpunished and there are plenty of bad people without limits to make that a truism. Think and feel for the risks one might be putting other people in for something they would do if they were there.
I don't live in a place where this level of paranoia is necessary. This is a quiet suburb, not an urban hellscape or the Wild West. I have called to request welfare checks twice and the police never even asked who is calling. Of course they can trace my phone number but they are not going to tell the person they are checking who it is who asked them to stop in. I'm just not worried about that.
If I lived next door to that incessantly crying child and had NOT called the police to check and see what was going on (after I'd been unable to reach anybody in the house next door, of course) I would never be able to live with myself.
I don't live in a place where this level of paranoia is necessary. This is a quiet suburb, not an urban hellscape or the Wild West. I have called to request welfare checks twice and the police never even asked who is calling. Of course they can trace my phone number but they are not going to tell the person they are checking who it is who asked them to stop in. I'm just not worried about that.
If I lived next door to that incessantly crying child and had NOT called the police to check and see what was going on (after I'd been unable to reach anybody in the house next door, of course) I would never be able to live with myself.
Again, you were assuming the neighbors heard the baby crying constantly we do not know that.
Again, you were assuming the neighbors heard the baby crying constantly we do not know that.
Of course, that is an unknown. But there are people on this thread who would refuse to get involved even if they did hear the crying.
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