Why Aren't There More Tree/Green in Dallas Compare to Houston???? (San Antonio: new home, statistics)

[PanTerra]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

I dunno...I'm from Tyler & don't consider Huntsville to be all that hilly. We have some hills around East Texas though that could rival those in the Hill Country down near Austin.

This particular area sits just 30 miles south of Tyler. There are more like it too around East Texas.

Photographs of Love's Lookout near Jacksonville Texas on U.S. 69 South of Tyler and Bullard (http://www.tylertexas.info/photos-loves-lookout.htm - broken link)

Anybody that has ridden The Beauty and the Beast knows just how hilly the area south of Tyler can get.

[Trae713]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

I dunno...I'm from Tyler & don't consider Huntsville to be all that hilly. We have some hills around East Texas though that could rival those in the Hill Country down near Austin.

This particular area sits just 30 miles south of Tyler. There are more like it too around East Texas you just don't see them off of any major highways like this one, they're all off of those small 2 lane farm to market roads.

http://Photographs of Love's Loo...er and Bullard

If you want to call Tyler hilly (and I'm talking Tyler, not Jacksonville), then you should have no problem calling Huntsville hilly. It's just that Huntsville is smaller. When I was looking for a college to go to and toured Sam Houston State, it was anything but flat. Where the prison is located has nothing to do with it. That's pretty much where Huntsville's hills begin actually. Go to Google Earth and check the elevation changes and look at the terrain for Huntsville. It should give you an idea.

[Metro Matt]

Are you the same person on here I've heard before say that The Woodlands is hilly? It made me want to slap that person silly.

I usually agree with you on most of your posts, but not on this one & Huntsville being just as hilly as Tyler.

[First24]

What some people here are calling 'hills' in Huntsville are called highway overpasses in other parts of the state.

[Mister Nifty]

Originally Posted by solytaire

I would never say that Dallas or Ft. Worth lies in an absolute dry/arid climate...but I do think that when combined with its soil types, the climate makes it difficult for lush natural vegetation to thrive. Believe it or not, soil types determine the quality of vegetation even moreso than simple wet/dry climate. Although not endemic to the DFW area, most vegetation that grows in lusher environments CAN also be grown in North Texas as well..the only difference is that the soil types in North Texas make it difficult for those kinds of trees to thrive without extra care.

But just a few feet in elevation can determine what grows. There are supposed to be alligators living somewhere in the vast urban forest of deep south Dallas. There are gars caught just a few hours south of Dallas that average from 6 feet in length and 200 pounds. The vegetation is lush at the lower elevations around the Trinity River bottoms and become more arid in the higher elevations. To the north of Dallas - Fort Worth are grasslands that grow in dark rich soil and used to grow fifteen feet tall to feed the buffalo, while to the southeast of Dallas County along the hills of southeast Dallas are cactus like plants. Dallas - Fort Worth is a huge bowl. One can mentally picture this basin by where the dams are located that empty lake water into it.

[First24]

This is what I consider hilly.

Lake Palo Pinto, 60 miles west of DFW

Lake Palo Pinto

[Trae713]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

Are you the same person on here I've heard before say that The Woodlands is hilly? It made me want to slap that person silly.

I usually agree with you on most of your posts, but not on this one & Huntsville being just as hilly as Tyler.

No, The Woodlands isn't hilly. It's "rolling" in some areas, but not hilly. And yes, I'd say Huntsville is just as hilly as Tyler. It's just that Huntsville is the smaller city. If it sprawled into the Sam Houston Forest (luckily it won't, or ever will), it'd be a Tyler clone.

Originally Posted by Scout_972

What some people here are calling 'hills' in Huntsville are called highway overpasses in other parts of the state.

Whatever. We are all going to have to just agree to disagree. Huntsville seems pretty hilly to me. There are some nice elevation changes between one side of the freeway and the other. Not to mention the area around Sam Houston State. As for the picture you posted, having a man made lake definitely helps to boost up the hills. If you built a lake in the hillier parts of Huntsville like that, it wouldn't look too different.

[Mister Nifty]

Originally Posted by Scout_972

This is what I consider hilly.

Lake Palo Pinto, 60 miles west of DFW

Lake Palo Pinto

How close is Lake Palo Pinto to Possum Kingdom? And those are more like little mountains. Not very big, but really more than hilly.

[solytaire]

Originally Posted by Scarface713

No, The Woodlands isn't hilly. It's "rolling" in some areas, but not hilly. And yes, I'd say Huntsville is just as hilly as Tyler. It's just that Huntsville is the smaller city. If it sprawled into the Sam Houston Forest (luckily it won't, or ever will), it'd be a Tyler clone.



Whatever. We are all going to have to just agree to disagree. Huntsville seems pretty hilly to me. There are some nice elevation changes between one side of the freeway and the other. Not to mention the area around Sam Houston State. As for the picture you posted, having a man made lake definitely helps to boost up the hills. If you built a lake in the hillier parts of Huntsville like that, it wouldn't look too different.

pretty much...and whats with the constant references to freeways? and overpasses?...Im sure some overpasses are built on hills as they typically are everywhere, but Im explicitly talking about the roads and buildings inside the city of Huntsville that sit upon hills. I was raised in Tyler, and I consider Huntsville to have much steeper hills than Tyler....Tyler, has some nice rolling hills...no doubt about it...but Huntsville's hills are more clustered together in my opinion and except for two hills Ive driven on in Tyler, I consider Huntsville to be hillier than Tyler, with steeper inclines...I guess thats because its smaller..but whatever...Ill agree to disagree as well.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by Scarface713

No, The Woodlands isn't hilly. It's "rolling" in some areas, but not hilly. And yes, I'd say Huntsville is just as hilly as Tyler. It's just that Huntsville is the smaller city. If it sprawled into the Sam Houston Forest (luckily it won't, or ever will), it'd be a Tyler clone.

Well no, it won't ever sprawl into there because its a national forest. As far as Huntsville being a Tyler clone? I don't think so. Maybe from a vegetation stand point I can see it, but city wise Tyler is more urban than Huntsville, Conroe, & The Woodlands (which has a faux urban fabric almost Disney- esque).