Why Aren't There More Tree/Green in Dallas Compare to Houston???? (Waco: how much, trees)

[First24]

Originally Posted by Scarface713

No, The Woodlands isn't hilly. It's "rolling" in some areas, but not hilly. And yes, I'd say Huntsville is just as hilly as Tyler. It's just that Huntsville is the smaller city. If it sprawled into the Sam Houston Forest (luckily it won't, or ever will), it'd be a Tyler clone.



Whatever. We are all going to have to just agree to disagree. Huntsville seems pretty hilly to me. There are some nice elevation changes between one side of the freeway and the other. Not to mention the area around Sam Houston State. As for the picture you posted, having a man made lake definitely helps to boost up the hills. If you built a lake in the hillier parts of Huntsville like that, it wouldn't look too different.

Walker County (Huntsville) is two counties directly above Harris County. Per the map below, the area in Walker County looks to have rolling terrain. The true hilly areas in Texas extend from southwest of San Antonio all the way up to west of DFW.

[solytaire]

Originally Posted by Mister Nifty

But just a few feet in elevation can determine what grows. There are supposed to be alligators living somewhere in the vast urban forest of deep south Dallas. There are gars caught just a few hours south of Dallas that average from 6 feet in length and 200 pounds. The vegetation is lush at the lower elevations around the Trinity River bottoms and become more arid in the higher elevations. To the north of Dallas - Fort Worth are grasslands that grow in dark rich soil and used to grow fifteen feet tall to feed the buffalo, while to the southeast of Dallas County along the hills of southeast Dallas are cactus like plants. Dallas - Fort Worth is a huge bowl. One can mentally picture this basin by where the dams are located that empty lake water into it.

No argument here. Elevation can and does also contribute greatly to the amount of forestry a region has...fully agree......Although Tyler officially sits at one of the highest elevations of all the East Texas cities, it receives enough precipitation, and has the soil types that contribute to a very lush environment. Alligators are even sometimes spotted in the area. I know a small one was found in Tyler yesterday...And its not terribly uncommon to hear of gator sitings in the area.

But anyway, my only point was that the issue (if it can even be considered an "issue") might a little more complex than simple wet/dry climate...While obviously not as lush as areas east, most of west and North Texas was fertile grassland with sporadic croppings of forestry before the spaniards overgrazed their horses there...But overgrazing combined with its naturally varied geophysiology, and its higher elevation (as you noted) in some areas have contributed to its bligheted topographical appearance; at least as you move away from the river banks.

[First24]

Originally Posted by Mister Nifty

How close is Lake Palo Pinto to Possum Kingdom? And those are more like little mountains. Not very big, but really more than hilly.

Possum Kingdom is approximately 25 miles north.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by Scout_972

Walker County (Huntsville) is two counties directly above Harris County. Per the map below, the area in Walker County looks to have rolling terrain. The true hilly areas in Texas extend from southwest of San Antonio all the way up to west of DFW.

After visiting San Antonio a few times I don't think I'd mind living there at all if it was on the higher elevations side of the city. There sure are some beautiful new homes out there with breath taking views to boot.

[First24]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

After visiting San Antonio a few times I don't think I'd mind living there at all if it was on the higher elevations side of the city. There sure are some beautiful new homes out there with breath taking views to boot.

^ So true.

[Trae713]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

Well no, it won't ever sprawl into there because its a national forest. As far as Huntsville being a Tyler clone? I don't think so. Maybe from a vegetation stand point I can see it, but city wise Tyler is more urban than Huntsville, Conroe, & The Woodlands (which has a faux urban fabric almost Disney- esque).

I said if it sprawled into the Sam Houston Forest, it'd be a Tyler clone. Now, as far as terrain goes, Huntsville looks like Tyler.

Agree on San Antonio though. It has some really nice scenery on the west and northwest sides. You get some great views of the city.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by Scarface713

I said if it sprawled into the Sam Houston Forest, it'd be a Tyler clone. Now, as far as terrain goes, Huntsville looks like Tyler.

Tyler has a better mix of pines & deciduous trees IMO. Huntsville is all pine trees.

[solytaire]

Im not quite understanding the discrepancy here...elevation maps clearly show that Huntsville has hilly terrain with the elevation becoming lower forming the brazos valley (there's that word again - valley) and the subsequent brazos river, then swiftly rising in elevation again, as one moves out of the valley...how is it so inplausible that Huntsville, or any other city directly adjacent to the valley, might be hilly?..oh well, if others dont think its hilly, they dont think its hilly...to each his own

[solytaire]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

Tyler has a better mix of pines & deciduous trees IMO. Huntsville is all pine trees.

true

[blkgiraffe]

Huntsville is about as hilly as Tyler. Neither have huge hills and whoever stated the hills in East Texas compare to hills in the Hill Country is BSing. As far as Huntsville being a clone of Tyler; It sort of is, but there is a difference.