What do locals think of Californians? (Houston, Dallas: buy, pollution, smog)

[dexter14]

Originally Posted by synchronicity

That said, "California" also encompasses Northern California (San Francisco), the valley (Sacramento) and so on. So it's not really fair to try to generalize all of California, probably even less fair than trying to generalize all of Dallas (even if we're just saying "Dallas and near 'burbs" and kinda leaving out Fort Worth).

This is true. I've lived in southern California all my life and can't wait to move because of overcrowding, insane cost of living and my distaste for the liberals who have taken over. However, it's extremely diverse here. Much more than outsiders would think. I can drive an hour east of the OC and be in cowboy country. I mean REAL cowboys. I did a photo shoot for a PBR (professional bull riders) event in Menifee, CA at a ranch. This area has many farms and ranches with cattle, horses, crops, barns, legit cowboys, not just guys dressing the part. You would never guess you were in southern CA if you didn't now. About an hour north of me is similar. You can see tons of cattle on farm land from the freeways and it stinks haha. Again, not what you would picture when you think "California". Northern California is completely different from Southern California as well. Lots of wide open spaces with great mountains like Shasta and great Lakes like Tahoe and then of course Yosemite. California probably has the most diversity of any state I can think of. Drive an hour one way and you can go skiing or hiking in the mountains, an hour the other way and you are at the beach, an hour the other way and you are in the desert, an hour the other way and you have ranches and farms. It's just a shame it has become so crowded, so insanely expensive and liberals have taken over and started to force unconstitutional laws on everyone.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by Considering Coming Back

My impression (guess) is that transplants are mostly in the suburbs. In Dallas proper (well, maybe not Uptown) the people seem to be from Dallas. As in my neighbors went to high school at BA, Woodrow, Hockaday, HP, and BL. A couple are married to people from other states, but they brought them back with them. If I'm out in Casa Linda or Bishop Arts the people working there tend to be from the neighborhoods. This may not apply as much in the Hispanic immigrant community, but even they seem to be settling in the suburbs now.

So are all the Californians north of LBJ?

There seem to be a lot more transplants north of 635. I would say this post seems to be pretty well accurate in my experience. In Plano, I dont even know anyone from Dallas. I do have some neighbors from Midland and others from Oklahoma, but thats the closest. Most everyone seems to be from California, South Asia (India and Nepal mainly), and the Midwest in my area. However, when we lived in Dallas, we knew more people from Texas and Mexico.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by mbell75

This is true. I've lived in southern California all my life and can't wait to move because of overcrowding, insane cost of living and my distaste for the liberals who have taken over. However, it's extremely diverse here. Much more than outsiders would think. I can drive an hour east of the OC and be in cowboy country. I mean REAL cowboys. I did a photo shoot for a PBR (professional bull riders) event in Menifee, CA at a ranch. This area has many farms and ranches with cattle, horses, crops, barns, legit cowboys, not just guys dressing the part. You would never guess you were in southern CA if you didn't now. About an hour north of me is similar. You can see tons of cattle on farm land from the freeways and it stinks haha. Again, not what you would picture when you think "California". Northern California is completely different from Southern California as well. Lots of wide open spaces with great mountains like Santa and great Lakes like Tahoe and then of course Yosemite. California probably has the most diversity of any state I can think of. Drive an hour one way and you can go skiing or hiking in the mountains, an hour the other way and you are at the beach, an hour the other way and you are in the desert, an hour the other way and you have ranches and farms. It's just a shame it has become so crowded, so insanely expensive and liberals have taken over and started to force unconstitutional laws on everyone.

Norco is ledgendary for its Cowboys.

[dexter14]

Originally Posted by peterlemonjello

Norco is ledgendary for its Cowboys.

I wasn't aware of that but I used to travel to Norco twice a year when I was younger. It always smelled like cows and cattle out there and they were everywhere. Many farms and ranches. Seems it has become a bit more urban last time I was there a few years ago though.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by mbell75

I wasn't aware of that but I used to travel to Norco twice a year when I was younger. It always smelled like cows and cattle out there and they were everywhere. Many farms and ranches. Seems it has become a bit more urban last time I was there a few years ago though.

We used to drive out in that direction a lot when I was growing up. It really is/was the essential Southern California cowboy town and it wore its colors with pride. Heck, there was an eppisode of "My Big Fat Redneck Wedding" that took place in Norco. The wedding party rode in on horses.

You are right. So much stereotyping occurs in society.

[winkosmosis]

Originally Posted by mbell75

This is true. I've lived in southern California all my life and can't wait to move because of overcrowding, insane cost of living and my distaste for the liberals who have taken over. However, it's extremely diverse here. Much more than outsiders would think. I can drive an hour east of the OC and be in cowboy country. I mean REAL cowboys. I did a photo shoot for a PBR (professional bull riders) event in Menifee, CA at a ranch. This area has many farms and ranches with cattle, horses, crops, barns, legit cowboys, not just guys dressing the part. You would never guess you were in southern CA if you didn't now. About an hour north of me is similar. You can see tons of cattle on farm land from the freeways and it stinks haha. Again, not what you would picture when you think "California". Northern California is completely different from Southern California as well. Lots of wide open spaces with great mountains like Shasta and great Lakes like Tahoe and then of course Yosemite. California probably has the most diversity of any state I can think of. Drive an hour one way and you can go skiing or hiking in the mountains, an hour the other way and you are at the beach, an hour the other way and you are in the desert, an hour the other way and you have ranches and farms. It's just a shame it has become so crowded, so insanely expensive and liberals have taken over and started to force unconstitutional laws on everyone.

What are these unconstitutional laws?

[dexter14]

Originally Posted by winkosmosis

What are these unconstitutional laws?

Many of the gun laws already in effect being challenged in federal court and the even more unconstitutional new ones that just passed assembly ready to be voted on, passed and sent to Brown's desk.

[ReppingDFW]

Originally Posted by synchronicity

FWIW, there seem to be a lot of similarities in the LA and Dallas stereotypes. Both cities are car culture cities that are largely spread out with a "suburban" feel rather than a large, dominating city center. Both cities have a stereotype of flashy, shallow, materialistic people (certainly not EVERYONE, but more than average to perpetuate the stereotype. "You are what you drive" and all that). Dallas is apparently the plastic surgery capital of the nation and I can't imagine LA is far behind.

That said, "California" also encompasses Northern California (San Francisco), the valley (Sacramento) and so on. So it's not really fair to try to generalize all of California, probably even less fair than trying to generalize all of Dallas (even if we're just saying "Dallas and near 'burbs" and kinda leaving out Fort Worth).

Which is why I said "places in California" not all of California.

[DFWMike]

Originally Posted by RonnieinDallas

As a native Texan, I don't like the Californication of DFW I see happening, increased traffic, pollution, sprawl, and the introduction of over rated chains.

Aside from that Californians are fine. I just think Texas culture has been watered down by the mass-dispersions of transplants.

Coming from a life long Texas, we had those things prior to the California rush. There's just more freeways...excuse me tollways...now than there used to be. Pollution and such is more a product of our homegrown attitude of ignorance toward the environment. Except when there is a battery plant in someone's backyard in Frisco, then all of the sudden pollution is a problem. Other than that out of sight out of mind.

Yes it's hard to see downtown Dallas through the smog, but I'm sure that's not smog...probably dust from west texas, but we don't have a pollution problem...nope. Hell, we don't even need the EPA. Just ask Emperor Perry, if he can remember what the agency actually does.

As for your question about Californians, there are plenty here in Frisco and I certainly have no issue with them. My neighbors were from California until they moved back, the life long Texan that moved in after them was definately a bad trade.

[RJ8089]

There's nothing wrong with Californians, but there is something wrong with their liberal socialist environmental dictatorial ideology.