Southlake subdivisions (Grapevine, Coppell, Colleyville: for sale, 2015, houses)

[warrenbuffoon]

Need help finding a "forever home" in Southlake. We've toured the area and visited a few different subdivisions but would love this community's help in locating more to visit for the following:

• Carroll ISD
• Decent diversity in area schools
• Homes preferably 2005 and newer, no older than 2000
• Mature trees, so older than 2015 or so
• Fairly big lots (0.5 acres and up)

Open to renovating but good bones are a must.

Also open to other DFW suggestions with good schools, decent diversity while staying conservative leaning.
Thanks for any suggestions in advance.

[Wittgenstein's Ghost]

I think you'll have a hard time finding this, for a few reasons.

First, trees take a lot longer than eight years to mature. They take longer than eighteen years to mature. So any subdivision that scraped trees and has 2005 or newer housing stock won't have mature trees.

Second, most new subdivisions in Southlake don't have half acre lots. There are a few. The new stuff going in sort of behind the Tom Thumb that you can see from 1709 (I think you access it from White Chapel) has large lots. Maybe look into that, but I do think it's gated. But for the most part, stuff has been cut up into smaller lots than this.

Finally, Southlake isn't diverse in any sense that most people mean when they seek out diversity. There are almost zero black people. There aren't too many hispanic people despite DFW having a high hispanic population. There are some Asians. I'm not looking to debate what constitutes "diversity" here, but if you mean this in the way most people typically mean it, you won't find it in Southlake.

Depending on budget, you could buy and renovate. There are some large lots in Southlake, and there are plenty of lots with mature trees. But Southlake is very expensive, and that's tied to its lack of diversity. If a bit more diversity really is a big deal for you, Grapevine is a bit better. It's of course a bit less homogeneously nice, though.....but that's what should be expected of any place with better diversity. It's also quite conservative.

Conservative, diverse and wealthy is a tough combo IMO.

[TeamLynn]

#1 What is your budget?
#2 What is your definition of diversity?

Southlake is probably a great place to live, but you might just google Southlake diversity or look up city-data to see if it is diverse enough to you.

I think you can probably find a house for you with your requirements, depending on what the budget is. I would say in Carroll ISD plan to spend $1mil or more as a starting point. Potentially you can find something less, but then again maybe not. This ISD is probably one of the most expensive places in the metroplex behind Park Cities where $1.5-$2mil gets 1/2 duplex, which we conveniently label as "Single Family Attached"

[dtscript]

Clariden Ranch has the large lots and newer homes. You might also look at Estes Park or Carillon.

[warrenbuffoon]

Thank you all! I will look into Clariden Ranch and Estes Park (familiar with Carillon). Budget is preferably $1.5M or under for a 4br house. Diverse means not completely WASP and has some communities of other races in the schools, which I think Carroll ISD has some of.

I'm also looking into Lucas for similar reasons, with the understanding that Lucas is much less developed and likely much less diverse. Any thoughts on Lucas as a "forever community" is also appreciated.

[ChristieP]

Where will you be commuting to for work? Southlake and Lucas are in opposite directions.

Southlake Carroll ISD is not diverse. "The student body at the schools served by Carroll Independent School District is 61.4% White, 2% Black, 20.3% Asian or Asian/Pacific Islander, 10.5% Hispanic/Latino, 0.3% American Indian or Alaska Native, and 0.1% Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander."

You're not going to find a half acre lot in Southlake in that budget unless one of the old 1970's original houses comes up for sale, and even then, it would be a major fixer-upper.

[warrenbuffoon]

Originally Posted by ChristieP

Where will you be commuting to for work? Southlake and Lucas are in opposite directions.

We work from home, so commute is not an issue.

Agree that it's a challenge to find half acre lots at our price point in Southlake. I'm ok sizing down to a third of an acre, which opens up more possibilities, but still typically older than 2000. Alternatively we could increase our budget, but at these interest rates I'd much prefer not to.

[Wittgenstein's Ghost]

Originally Posted by warrenbuffoon

We work from home, so commute is not an issue.

Agree that it's a challenge to find half acre lots at our price point in Southlake. I'm ok sizing down to a third of an acre, which opens up more possibilities, but still typically older than 2000. Alternatively we could increase our budget, but at these interest rates I'd much prefer not to.

What you're looking for does mostly exist, but barely. Here's a 2005-built on half an acre: https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...2_M83598-59102

It's not the trendiest thing ever, but it's also not terribly dated. I'd figure out if Southlake is really where you want to be first, though. It's a big premium to be in Southlake, so if it's not exactly what you want, it's probably not worth it.

One issue you run into on big lots in Southlake is that even nice, large homes are often viewed as a teardown. Lot value is high for small acreage in Southlake, and that props up the value of dated properties that could otherwise be renovated.

[DFW_FTW]

Originally Posted by warrenbuffoon

We work from home, so commute is not an issue.

Agree that it's a challenge to find half acre lots at our price point in Southlake. I'm ok sizing down to a third of an acre, which opens up more possibilities, but still typically older than 2000. Alternatively we could increase our budget, but at these interest rates I'd much prefer not to.

Time to step down to Colleyville, Coppell or Grapevine.

[ChristieP]

Colleyville or Grapevine would definitely increase the likelihood of a large lot, and you'd probably get more home for the money, too.

Grapevine-Colleyville ISD also has more diverse schools: 53% of Grapevine-Colleyville Independent School District students are White, 25% of students are Hispanic, 10% of students are Asian, 7% of students are Black, and 5% of students are Two or more races. You'll also get income diversity, which Southlake does not have: among the total population, 6.1% had income below poverty level in the previous year.