Census: D-FW adds more residents than any other U.S. metro area (Dallas: airports, move)

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

By gollie, I'll be danged if I haven't stumbled across even more evidence that FTW is a prominent city and, according to this article in the "The Dallas Morning News", it's even among some of the "state's largest cities".
Of course some still seem to be in denial, claiming its just a mere 'burb of another municipality and apparently not worthy of true city status ?

Hahaha... you're trying to establish the Fort Worth administrative division as an important and independent component of the metro area...

And when you're trying to prove it's independent of Dallas, where do you go? to a DALLAS newspaper...

How ironic and telling...

BTW, I wouldn't try to cite anything coming out of the DMN as constituting "evidence". If anything, it's evidence of semantic confusion. No wonder newspapers are going bankrupt.

By the way, I'd agree with you that the Fort Worth municipal government is legally independent of the Dallas municipal government... and they are both minor players in the scope of the metro aarea.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by aceplace

And when you're trying to prove it's independent of Dallas, where do you go? to a DALLAS newspaper...

How ironic and telling...

BTW, I wouldn't try to cite anything coming out of the DMN as constituting "evidence". If anything, it's evidence of semantic confusion. No wonder newspapers are going bankrupt.

I'm using a story in the Dallas news paper to make my point about FTW, which obviously means you're the one who missed the real irony here.
Regarding your point about the Morning News, no it's not the paper it once was but it's still probably the best in Texas, which is faint praise these days.
Certainly better than the Houston Chronicle, on the other hand I rarely read the Austin paper so 'am not sure about it comparitively speaking but I'd imagine its owned lock-stock-and-barrel by the Dems ?

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

I'm using a story in the Dallas news paper to make my point about FTW, which obviously means you're the one who missed the real irony here.
Regarding your point about the Morning News, no it's not the paper it once was but it's still probably the best in Texas, which is faint praise these days.
Certainly better than the Houston Chronicle, on the other hand I rarely read the Austin paper so 'am not sure about it comparitively speaking but I'd imagine its owned lock-stock-and-barrel by the Dems ?

Are you sure you got the point right? If FW actually were an independent "city", rather than just an administrative subdivision, you wouldn't have to go to Dallas for your news. Especially if you're trying to prove FW is not dependent on Dallas.

Use the appropriate terminology. If you do, you're less likely to undergo confusion, self-delusion, and the picked-on and patronized feeling that many in FW feel.

[BillyH]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Mayor's races heating up in Fort Worth, Austin, El Paso, San Antonio
Mayors will be elected Saturday in four of the state's largest cities, including Austin, where former state comptroller and gubernatorial candidate Carole Keeton Strayhorn is in a tough fight to win back her old job.
Mayor's races heating up in Fort Worth, Austin, El Paso, San Antonio | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Texas Regional News (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/050309dntexmayorrace.1f701de.html - broken link)
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By gollie, I'll be danged if I haven't stumbled across even more evidence that FTW is a prominent city and, according to this article in the "The Dallas Morning News", it's even among some of the "state's largest cities".
Of course some still seem to be in denial, claiming its just a mere 'burb of another municipality and apparently not worthy of true city status ?

I think the majority of Texans don't think of Fort Worth as a suburb of Dallas. That why it's called DFW or The Metroplex the largest metro area in Texas and Dallas the third largest city in Texas.

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by BillyH

I think the majority of Texans don't think of Fort Worth as a suburb of Dallas. That why it's called DFW or The Metroplex the largest metro area in Texas and Dallas the third largest city in Texas.

Well, once again, municipal Dallas doesn't have suburbs, and municipal Dallas is only the second or third largest MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT in Texas. Calling it a CITY is using too broad a term.

The term "city" is ambiguous. Many people assume it means "metropolitan area" or "urban area", or assume that it characterizes the basic size of an urban region. When you use the more exact term "municipal government", and people know exactly what you're talking about, the impact of the statement really deflates fast.

I've explained in various posts why I believe what I've written above, but why don't you explain your own belief... what do you think it means for one municipal government to be a suburb of another? For example, why do you think Plano is a suburb of municipal Dallas? Or if you don't think so, why not? What is the general rule you're using?

If you can't explain your thinking, how can the rest of us understand it?

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by aceplace

Calling it a CITY is using too broad a term.

Still confused there I see, Aceplace. See the argument you are using implies that calling Dallas a city uses too narrow a term or description.

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Still confused there I see, Aceplace. See the argument you are using implies that calling Dallas a city uses too narrow a term or description.

Do you mean Dallas municipality, Dallas county or Dallas metro?

Your entire post is so verbally ambiguous it's no wonder you can't really make a point.

[portyhead24]

I got lost a few posts ago. I'm not sure what y'all are arguing anymore. hehe

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by portyhead24

I got lost a few posts ago. I'm not sure what y'all are arguing anymore. hehe

I don't either. We both agree that Fort Worth is not a suburb of Dallas, just for different reasons.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by aceplace

Your entire post is so verbally ambiguous it's no wonder you can't really make a point.

Takes a perceptive mind to discern the differences between subtlety and ambiguity. You're not there yet Aceplace but keep trying, I like your efforts.