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Old 07-28-2015, 07:09 AM
 
Location: plano
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Is this how all isd's operate? Seems highly unfavorable t new residents who buy in an area for a school path. Why not build in room to handle summer move ins?
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Old 07-28-2015, 07:56 AM
 
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Part of it comes into the how RISD views the most efficient allocation of funds across the district. I can't speak for how other ISDs operate that are in a similar situation.

Some of the RISD elementary schools are adding on or will have plans to when the next bond package is put up for vote. The projections from a 5-10 year standpoint show even the high schools will have overflow or almost reached full capacity.
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Old 07-28-2015, 08:12 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Is this how all isd's operate? Seems highly unfavorable t new residents who buy in an area for a school path. Why not build in room to handle summer move ins?
Why should we the taxpayers take a hit for that? Build in room to handle summer move-ins? That's insane. Do you know how many elementary schools, junior highs, high schools, and even a handful of magnet programs and "alternative" schools there are in RISD? AND how many classrooms and how many teachers they'd have to juggle in order to "handle" summer move-ins? It's not nearly as simple as you make it out to be.

Plus, what if these "summer move-ins" are no-shows? What if they enroll their kids in private school? What if there aren't nearly as many as anticipated? You're basically asking the school district to not only be experts in educating children, but also able to predict the ebbs and flows of the local real estate market. Um...NO.

If you don't like it, write the school board to gripe about them doing their level best to keep class sizes small (like most parents seem to want) or better yet, write your state representative and state senator. They're the ones who can maybe do something about mandatory classroom sizes. And thanks to our low tax, low service system the lege won't be in session again until January 2017. That'll give you plenty of time to polish up your proposal.

I mean, really. If they request TEA waivers, parents complain bitterly about "overcrowded" classrooms. If they don't, parents complain bitterly about the school district not having a crystal ball and "building in room" for people who might...MIGHT...move to Richardson after open enrollment ends.

Can't win, don't try.
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Old 07-28-2015, 10:55 AM
 
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So basically I need to be under contract in March. Ugh. We weren't planning on putting our house on the market here until March! Crap.
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Old 07-28-2015, 11:17 AM
 
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People who move in pay taxes too but can't rely on getting the school they are zoned to? Sounds like a planning problem to me.not enough capacity in some schools but too much in others here they get transferred. People have choices this approach would make Richardson drop down the desire able locations for summer transfers in. Most corps will transfer this time of year when school won't be missed..

Why let this imbalance of capacity go on and on when some professsional planning an mitigate it?
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:35 PM
 
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So basically I need to be under contract in March. Ugh. We weren't planning on putting our house on the market here until March! Crap.
To have a spot in the neighborhood school without any concerns, yes there needs to be a contract with the new address in that zone prior to the enrollment date. Is it possible to get into the school after the enrollment date begins? Yes, but the longer you wait to enroll the higher odds you play. Another option is to find a short term lease but in Brentfield that probably won't be an option.
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:41 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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People who move in pay taxes too but can't rely on getting the school they are zoned to? Sounds like a planning problem to me.not enough capacity in some schools but too much in others here they get transferred. People have choices this approach would make Richardson drop down the desire able locations for summer transfers in. Most corps will transfer this time of year when school won't be missed..

Why let this imbalance of capacity go on and on when some professsional planning an mitigate it?
Why are you asking me? I don't work for RISD. I just pay buttloads of taxes to it, just like everyone else who pays RISD taxes whether we have children or not (I don't).

It's not their planning problem; it's yours.

Personally, I don't really care if Richardson becomes less desirable for corporate relos. That'll keep my taxes from going up so fast.
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:44 PM
 
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People who move in pay taxes too but can't rely on getting the school they are zoned to? Sounds like a planning problem to me.not enough capacity in some schools but too much in others here they get transferred. People have choices this approach would make Richardson drop down the desire able locations for summer transfers in. Most corps will transfer this time of year when school won't be missed..

Why let this imbalance of capacity go on and on when some professsional planning an mitigate it?
From my understanding, RISD would usually consider adding another teacher if there are enough move in's after the enrollment date and it would put a classroom close to 90% capacity for that grade level. However, fiscal consideration for hiring another teacher for each campus for an extra 6-10 students x each grade level versus sending a few students to an overflow campus for one semester/year.

I understand your point and agree it is a concern, but there are a lot of moving parts that come into the fiscal side of it.
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:48 PM
 
Location: plano
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Why are you asking me? I don't work for RISD. I just pay buttloads of taxes to it, just like everyone else who pays RISD taxes whether we have children or not (I don't).

It's not their planning problem; it's yours.

Personally, I don't really care if Richardson becomes less desirable for corporate relos. That'll keep my taxes from going up so fast.
You assumed the only solution is more taxes. Better planning is a solution too.

If you don't care how Richardson isd treats new taxpayers it's not my problem.

I don't agree corporation relocations drive up property taxes as you assume.

If you don't want Richardson to be attractive to new residents you sure pump a lot of air cheering it on.
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:48 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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From my understanding, RISD would usually consider adding another teacher if there are enough move in's after the enrollment date and it would put a classroom close to 90% capacity for that grade level. However, fiscal consideration for hiring another teacher for each campus for an extra 6-10 students x each grade level versus sending a few students to an overflow campus for one semester/year.

I understand your point and agree it is a concern, but there are a lot of moving parts that come into the fiscal side of it.
Indeed...thanks for a more reasoned and sensible response than mine was.

I'm still kind of stunned that someone thinks that the school should apply for waivers or hire an extra teacher simply because they moved somewhere less than a month before the start of the new school year.

I guess RISD should have known he was coming?
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