talk radio (Taylor, Republic: crime, law, stations)

[tigger37708]

Originally Posted by detwahDJ

*Corporate conservatives own 99% of the "mainstream" media (they are corporations you know). So why would corporations pump out socialist propaganda? A grand socialist plot?
*If you somehow see the conservative-owned mainstream media as liberal, then that speaks to your own rightist ideological position. "Liberal" media is MSNBC, not NBC.
*If the mainstream media was truly liberal, it would be attacking Fox/Limbaugh/Rove/Ayles/you-name-it! Have you heard any of this?
*Conservative talk doesn't satisfy a "conservative majority", it is the voice of plutocracy (un-American but apparently desired by some).

Its a vast Right Wing conspiracy!
I swear Im beginning to think Liberalism is a form of mental illness.

[ForStarters]

Originally Posted by tigger37708

Its a vast Right Wing conspiracy!
I swear Im beginning to think Liberalism is a form of mental illness.

I'm beginning to think all politics is a form of mental illness. Donald Trump was almost a serious candidate for President of the United States.

[Yac]

Let's stay focused on the radio part of the topic, not politics. We have a separate forum for that.
Yac.

[Dwatted Wabbit]

Originally Posted by tigger37708

No market for Liberal Talk Radio.
Not financially viable.
Besides every other Major media outlet is Liberal.
The financial success of Conservative Talk Radio is because it is unique.
It satisfies the Conservative majority that is starving for news and commentary not spun to the left.

And how.

Air America did so well.

I caught a broadcast, not knowing who or what it was, several years back.
Everything the host said was essentially made up. He was a moron, as was his #2. If that was typical of their quality, no wonder they had about 20 regular listeners.

[detwahDJ]

Originally Posted by Dwatted Wabbit

And how.
Air America did so well.
I caught a broadcast, not knowing who or what it was, several years back.
Everything the host said was essentially made up. He was a moron, as was his #2. If that was typical of their quality, no wonder they had about 20 regular listeners.

*Made up? You know what opinion is? Moderate/liberal programs promote themselves as such. Fox/Limbaugh promote themselves as "news".
*Not surprising your definition of "moron" as someone who says things you don't like. True morons can exist on either side.
*Air America didn't do well? There was mismanagement there plus it naturally didn't have Murdoch $$$ behind it.
Most conservatives admit that money rules, that's a given.
What about infomercials? Nobody asks for them but there they are. Big money gets them on the air.

[errhuh]

Talk radio is usually a lower brow format made for people who can listen to radio during the say. The elderly, line workers, truckers, etc. And the talkers aren't exactly scholars. They are radio guys who often have limited educations.

There could be many reasons why the format is not well suited to left. I won't bother with a list. I only hit up the radio in my car and I'm simply not available for most talk radio shows. But on top of that, I don't enjoy the format. I wouldn't listen to Air America or Rush Limbaugh even if I could. I don't like being spoon fed opinion. I prefer raw news. But reporting is expensive and chatter is cheap so they fill the hours with what is cheap.

[detwahDJ]

Originally Posted by errhuh

Talk radio is usually a lower brow format made for people who can listen to radio during the say. The elderly, line workers, truckers, etc. And the talkers aren't exactly scholars. They are radio guys who often have limited educations.

There could be many reasons why the format is not well suited to left. I won't bother with a list. I only hit up the radio in my car and I'm simply not available for most talk radio shows. But on top of that, I don't enjoy the format. I wouldn't listen to Air America or Rush Limbaugh even if I could. I don't like being spoon fed opinion. I prefer raw news. But reporting is expensive and chatter is cheap so they fill the hours with what is cheap.

You're right.
AM radio became a dinosaur, so what do you do with it? It's only suited for talk. They actually experimented with AM stereo, which sounded pretty good, but it couldn't compete with FM. Since AM was relatively cheap, talk virtually "saved" it. So it is suitable only for voice (talk, sports, religion).
Fear raises emotions, and therefore ratings (my opinion).
Investigative reporting is expensive and more work.
News is a commodity and therefore must be entertaining for ratings. Junk food. That's why we don't get Pure News.
So who's to blame, the customer or the store?

[Coldjensens]

Originally Posted by detwahDJ

*Made up? You know what opinion is? Moderate/liberal programs promote themselves as such. Fox/Limbaugh promote themselves as "news".

Although I am generally moderate to conservative in my views, I do not regularly listen to Limbaugh because he is often absurd to the point of being silly. It seems that his primary goal is to say something so extreme that he wll get a rise out of someone on the liberal side of the political spectrum. However in two of the few times that I did listen to his program, I heard him making fun of people for saying that his program is "news" He said "this is an entertainment program you moron, why woudl you think it was news?"

In one instance he was really bahsing the liberal caller who chastized Limbaugh for misrepresenting some news item. He went on and on about how only an idiot woudl think that his program was news. He said something like only a complete idiot, or a liberal who never listened to his show woudl think that it was supposed to be news and in the second case, the person was also an idoit for making delcarations about his show without listening enough to know what it really is. in both cases he made a big issue of how stupid it was to think his show was news and carried on about it for half an hour.

If he later or ealier promoted his program as news - that is really funny.

Some parts of Limbarugh's show are entertaining. The one that I cannot understand how anyone can tolerate regardless of their political views is Mark Levin. That has got to be the worst program on talk radio (possibly excluding the made up blather broadcast by NPR and the bland say nohthing talk show by Mitch Ablum).

While some od the morning prgrams are interesting, I find miss that variety of interesting and entertaining talk radio that was available in the Los Angeles area. Perhaps I shold get Sirius, but I like local talk radio. I really do not want to listen to people complaining about how hot and sunny it is on days like this.

[TaylorRothschild]

I listen to NPR regularly. I enjoy their programming and even though I'm a fiscal conservative I appreciate hearing all sides of the story.

Anyone who claims NPR is centrist is either brainwashed or stupid. And I'd say the same about anyone who claims Fox is in the middle. I don't mind opposing viewpoints. . .just don't use tax dollars to spew propaganda.

And now they're even using tax dollars to lobby washington (http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2010/10/npr-s-lobbyists-funded-listeners-you - broken link) for more funds.

[detwahDJ]

Originally Posted by Coldjensens

Although I am generally moderate to conservative in my views, I do not regularly listen to Limbaugh because he is often absurd to the point of being silly. It seems that his primary goal is to say something so extreme that he wll get a rise out of someone on the liberal side of the political spectrum. However in two of the few times that I did listen to his program, I heard him making fun of people for saying that his program is "news" He said "this is an entertainment program you moron, why woudl you think it was news?"
In one instance he was really bahsing the liberal caller who chastized Limbaugh for misrepresenting some news item. He went on and on about how only an idiot woudl think that his program was news. He said something like only a complete idiot, or a liberal who never listened to his show woudl think that it was supposed to be news and in the second case, the person was also an idoit for making delcarations about his show without listening enough to know what it really is. in both cases he made a big issue of how stupid it was to think his show was news and carried on about it for half an hour.
If he later or ealier promoted his program as news - that is really funny.
Some parts of Limbarugh's show are entertaining. The one that I cannot understand how anyone can tolerate regardless of their political views is Mark Levin. That has got to be the worst program on talk radio (possibly excluding the made up blather broadcast by NPR and the bland say nohthing talk show by Mitch Ablum).
While some od the morning prgrams are interesting, I find miss that variety of interesting and entertaining talk radio that was available in the Los Angeles area. Perhaps I shold get Sirius, but I like local talk radio. I really do not want to listen to people complaining about how hot and sunny it is on days like this.

Glad to hear about Limbaugh and I stand corrected. He certainly is correct about people assuming things but his followers do. I haven't listened for a long time because I know what he's about (a plutocrat). His (and Fox's) aim is to get Americans to embrace an oligarchy imo. I remember him from when he was up-and-coming some 25 (?) years ago and was throwing out these "un-American" comments, etc, etc. I did then and do now take offense at these charges. The "liberal" in his rhetoric may actually be a liberal or a moderate. Too sharply defined anyway...
Same with Fox so my info may not be up to date (Fox is more subtle). If Fox ever says it is opinion I probably won't know about it (it bills itself as news). Information omitted is as important as information given - that's one technique of propaganda (partial truths).
Mark Levin is a special case, like Michael Savage. Don't know if they believe their rants or if they're just "on the bandwagon" for profit. People take them seriously though and Levin is a multi-millionaire.
Re. "getting a rise out of liberals" of course he does, but liberal talk is relatively new. For years there was no alternative to Limbaugh (by that I mean someone to actually call him out. Not the so-called "mainstream media"). The "mainstream media" was never an alternative as he (and the Right) maintained because it never retaliated against his daily rants against it.