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Old 09-10-2007, 12:40 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I recommend a juice fast. You are not starving yourself during this fast and you will be getting nutrients, so your body won't go into "starvation mode." You will cleanse your entire system. You skin will be radiant, and you will be beautiful on that special day. On this fast, I have dropped about 4 pounds per day. Buy a juicer, and make sure that all your ingredients and juices are readily available. All drinks are 16 oz.

This is what I do:

Night before: Have a salad, no dressing, maybe squeeze some lemon on salad. Have tea (green, bancha, twig, or any herbal tea) before retiring.

Upon rising: squeeze two lemons in water, drink.
Breakfast: have cranberry/apple juice or pineapple juice or apple juice
Brunch: carrot juice, pear juice (mix with tbl Barley)
Lunch: green drink (in juicer, mix carrots, cucumbers, celery, bunch spinach, tomatoes, green pepper) - add a little Braggs Amino acid to this drink
Mid after - cranberry/apple, apple juice
Dinner green drink (water and chollela grans, or a Green Superfood)
Prior to bed - apple juice
At bed - tea

Repeat each day. The first day will be difficult, but not overly so because your body will be in the process of digesting unprocessed food in your stomach and intestines. Once it has done this, you will begin to get cravings. This is your bodies way of telling you that "if you don't get some food in me, I'm going to have to hit the reserves, and I don't want to work." The "reserves" here are your fat cells. Ignore the craving and continue to follow the program. Your body will then begin consuming the contents of fat cells. This is when you will begin to notice weight loss when you wake up in the morning and look in the mirror. Keep it up. Depending on your resolve, you can lose over 20 pounds in 7 days. Take it 10 days, and you can lose 30 pounds. You will look and feel great.

At the end of the fast, the night before you are to end the fast, have a light salad, no dressing. Your stomach will not have the enzymes to process regular food and your taste buds will be very sensitive to the unnatural ingredients in many foods. This is good. You have to work back to eating foods in a slow way so as not to shock your system.

This fast is one of many that I have used from Dr. Linda Page's book, "Healthy Healing."

Good luck, whatever you do and CONGRATULATIONS!
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:05 AM
 
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I don't have the time to read this topic from start to finish. However,
I do recommend a cut off time in the evenings to stop consumption.
Normally, by 7pm nothing to eat after because your body slows down.
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:25 PM
 
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I recommend a juice fast. You are not starving yourself during this fast and you will be getting nutrients, so your body won't go into "starvation mode."
i strongly recomend against fasting or any diet that completely ignores the other two macronutrients. your body will not get enough nutrients and calories from fruit alone.
also, you are losing too much muscle and glycogen when you fast. this is horrible for your physique, health, and metabolism.
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:27 PM
 
Location: orlando, fl
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I don't have the time to read this topic from start to finish. However,
I do recommend a cut off time in the evenings to stop consumption.
Normally, by 7pm nothing to eat after because your body slows down.
i also recomend against having a cut-off time. there is not a magical time when they body begins to store everything as fat. if you have trouble with cravings at night, then find a technique that works to control the cravings. but avoiding food consumption during a certain period of time is not a smart approach to dieting
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:35 AM
 
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i strongly recomend against fasting or any diet that completely ignores the other two macronutrients. your body will not get enough nutrients and calories from fruit alone.
also, you are losing too much muscle and glycogen when you fast. this is horrible for your physique, health, and metabolism.
I have enjoyed tremendous benefits from variations of the fast that I am proposing here. Don't just make blanket statements unless you know the facts. Also, this is not just a fruit fast. Please get informed before you disregard.

If anyone doubts this fast, by all means take a glance at the book and its description of the various fasts. Highly recommended, especially for a quick weight loss.
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Old 09-11-2007, 06:24 AM
 
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i also recomend against having a cut-off time. there is not a magical time when they body begins to store everything as fat. if you have trouble with cravings at night, then find a technique that works to control the cravings. but avoiding food consumption during a certain period of time is not a smart approach to dieting
By 7pm, assuming going to bed by 10pm - during the day; 3 healthy meals
and snacks in-between. How much more food needed before bedtime?
A glass of water while reading a book or watching a movie is the best
way to handle this situtation. There is no starvation here.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:39 PM
 
Location: NE Florida
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6 weeks before we left on our cruise I decided I needed to do more than my 3 mile walk every day to lose the 10 pounds.
I joined a gym and went 4 days a week took 3 spinning classes and a body pump and added some water cardio or elliptical.
The biggest help I think was eating breakfast something I didn't, the trainer said it will help jump start my metabolism. I reduced the snacking but other than those 2 things I didn't really change my eating.
I lost the 10 pounds and almost 2 sizes
I was more concerned about the size than the weight loss. lol if I didn't have to go buy new clothes for the cruise that meant more money for the casino and souvenir's.
So you might want to try bumping up your exercise plus fast weight loss without exercise means saggy skin. if you don't want to join a gym the "walk away the pounds" dvds are really great.
with crash dieting to lose fast the weigh will come back pretty fast once you start eating normally.
I believe the slower you lose the longer it stays off.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:03 PM
 
Location: orlando, fl
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I have enjoyed tremendous benefits from variations of the fast that I am proposing here. Don't just make blanket statements unless you know the facts. Also, this is not just a fruit fast. Please get informed before you disregard.

If anyone doubts this fast, by all means take a glance at the book and its description of the various fasts. Highly recommended, especially for a quick weight loss.
I need to get informed?
High carbohydrate diets, especially those with no protein and fat intake, are not only less effective at total weight loss, they have significantly higher rates of muscle loss.

here are a few studies that you might want to read. if you would like more, just let me know. there are tons that display the importance of protein in a weight-loss diet. the first study is about the maximum calorie deficit you should have when dieting. there is a limit to how much fat the body can burn in a time period. losing weight at a faster rate means that you are losing muscle, glycogen, and water; primarily muscle.

Alpert SS. A limit on the energy transfer rate from the human fat store in hypophagia. J Theor Biol. 2005 Mar 7;233(1):1-13

Effects of variation in protein and carbohydrate intake on body mass and composition during energy restriction: a meta-regression 1.Krieger JW, Sitren HS, Daniels MJ, Langkamp-Henken B.
Department of Food Science and Human Nutrition and of Statistics, University of Florida, Gainesville, FL 32611-0370, USA.

Effect of a high-protein, energy-restricted diet on body composition, glycemic control, and lipid concentrations in overweight and obese hyperinsulinemic men and women.Farnsworth E, Luscombe ND, Noakes M, Wittert G, Argyiou E, Clifton PM.
Department of Physiology, University of Adelaide, SA, Australia.



Effects of protein vs. carbohydrate-rich diets on fuel utilisation in obese women during weight loss.Labayen I, Díez N, González A, Parra D, Martínez JA.
Department of Physiology and Nutrition, University Clinic University of Navarra, Pamplona, Spain.

Effect of a high-protein, energy-restricted diet on body composition, glycemic control, and lipid concentrations in overweight and obese hyperinsulinemic men and women.Farnsworth E, Luscombe ND, Noakes M, Wittert G, Argyiou E, Clifton PM.
Department of Physiology, University of Adelaide, SA, Australia.

High protein vs high carbohydrate hypoenergetic diet for the treatment of obese hyperinsulinemic subjects.Baba NH, Sawaya S, Torbay N, Habbal Z, Azar S, Hashim SA.
Department of Food Technology and Nutrition and the Division of Endocrinology, American University of Beirut, Beirut, Lebanon. nahla@aub.edu.lb

Comparison of high-fat and high-protein diets with a high-carbohydrate diet in insulin-resistant obese women.McAuley KA, Hopkins CM, Smith KJ, McLay RT, Williams SM, Taylor RW, Mann JI.
Edgar National Centre for Diabetes Research, Medical and Surgical Sciences, University of Otago, PO Box 56, Dunedin, New Zealand. kirsten.mcauley@stonebow.otago.ac.nz
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Old 09-11-2007, 11:57 PM
 
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I need to get informed?
High carbohydrate diets, especially those with no protein and fat intake, are not only less effective at total weight loss, they have significantly higher rates of muscle loss.

here are a few studies that you might want to read. if you would like more, just let me know. there are tons that display the importance of protein in a weight-loss diet. the first study is about the maximum calorie deficit you should have when dieting. there is a limit to how much fat the body can burn in a time period. losing weight at a faster rate means that you are losing muscle, glycogen, and water; primarily muscle.

Alpert SS. A limit on the energy transfer rate from the human fat store in hypophagia. J Theor Biol. 2005 Mar 7;233(1):1-13

Effects of variation in protein and carbohydrate intake on body mass and composition during energy restriction: a meta-regression 1.Krieger JW, Sitren HS, Daniels MJ, Langkamp-Henken B.
Department of Food Science and Human Nutrition and of Statistics, University of Florida, Gainesville, FL 32611-0370, USA.

Effect of a high-protein, energy-restricted diet on body composition, glycemic control, and lipid concentrations in overweight and obese hyperinsulinemic men and women.Farnsworth E, Luscombe ND, Noakes M, Wittert G, Argyiou E, Clifton PM.
Department of Physiology, University of Adelaide, SA, Australia.



Effects of protein vs. carbohydrate-rich diets on fuel utilisation in obese women during weight loss.Labayen I, Díez N, González A, Parra D, Martínez JA.
Department of Physiology and Nutrition, University Clinic University of Navarra, Pamplona, Spain.

Effect of a high-protein, energy-restricted diet on body composition, glycemic control, and lipid concentrations in overweight and obese hyperinsulinemic men and women.Farnsworth E, Luscombe ND, Noakes M, Wittert G, Argyiou E, Clifton PM.
Department of Physiology, University of Adelaide, SA, Australia.

High protein vs high carbohydrate hypoenergetic diet for the treatment of obese hyperinsulinemic subjects.Baba NH, Sawaya S, Torbay N, Habbal Z, Azar S, Hashim SA.
Department of Food Technology and Nutrition and the Division of Endocrinology, American University of Beirut, Beirut, Lebanon. nahla@aub.edu.lb

Comparison of high-fat and high-protein diets with a high-carbohydrate diet in insulin-resistant obese women.McAuley KA, Hopkins CM, Smith KJ, McLay RT, Williams SM, Taylor RW, Mann JI.
Edgar National Centre for Diabetes Research, Medical and Surgical Sciences, University of Otago, PO Box 56, Dunedin, New Zealand. kirsten.mcauley@stonebow.otago.ac.nz
Yes, but you know nothing about me and completely disregarded my experience with what I proposed. To this, I responded that you should "get informed." I'm not here to argue medical research, but my source is very reliable and has worked for me. The OP wanted suggestions and that is what many of us have provided here. You want to get into a deep discussion from a medical standpoint, expressing your apparently useful medical facts and the results of various studies, do so in another thread. The OP wanted suggestions for a quick fix, and that is precisely what I provided.
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Cheshire, England
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Congratulations. I agree with some previous threads by not having to change for anyone else, as long as you are happy with yourself, that is all that matters. However, if you do want to loose weight i just recommend more exercises and drink more water.

Good Luck!!
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