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Old 02-23-2013, 05:24 AM
 
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Back in the day, women stayed home, husbands worked came in at 5, dinner was on the table. The family sat at the table and ate. Then with the collapse of family, both parents working, kids having a bagillion things to do, here comes fast food, junk food. Quick and easy. Fried in animal fat, that's really tasty. Full of additives, that's really tasty. Decades of this and people forgot how to cook. It's easy, it's cheap. What's the solution? I wish I knew.
Yep, agrred, best way to summarize the change in American eating behavior since the '70s or so. Some people do eat healthier, but on average, I would bet, more people rely on junk than general healthy eating. "Quick and easy" is key based on what you describe, with both parents working, this is what most want because of lack of time.
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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I haen't had a Coke in ages; I'll have to get some. I love the idea of making sure that heavy users stay that way but I've long realized that the heavy user is the real profit maker in any industry. It's certainly not restricted to food.

Keeping more in the spirit of the Food and Drink Forum I found the idea of potato chips with breakfast really exciting. I can easily see how good soft scrambled eggs could be while dipping potato chips or corn chips into them. I came up with another idea as well. Get some dipping size Fritos. Put cream cheese, softened and warmed, on them, then dip them into soft scrambled eggs. That'll put hair on your chest.
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:48 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Disclaimer: I don't like junk food, so I don't eat it.

90% of the problem is that the health industry has cried wolf too many times. Eggs are bad, no eggs are good. Eat Margarine, no don't. Eat butter, no don't. Eat lots of fish, no don't, it contains mercury.

I suspect the public simply tunes them out. I know I do. I do my own research and I am not taking any diet advice from the AMA. Probably not even if they ever make up their minds.
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:46 AM
 
Location: "Daytonnati"
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The concept of "Addicitive' for me just means craving something.

But I offer this article here at the diet & weight-loss forum since junk food is a sometime topic, and as "situational awarness" to avoid food that makes you want to eat more of it than you should, and that has little nutitrional benefit.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:51 AM
 
Location: On the corner of Grey Street
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Really interesting article. I try not to buy junk when I go to the store. I avoid the chip aisle entirely. You can't eat it if you don't have it available. What's scary is how many foods people think are healthy that have tons of hidden crap in them like the spaghetti sauce filled with sugar.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I think junk food is psychologically addicting. I do not believe it is physiologically addicting. People do not go through addiction withdrawals if they stop eating junk food (with the possible exception of caffinated drinks). They have a hard time stopping in the first place, they have cravings, but they do not have withdrawal symptoms.
So what do you consider the cravings for junk food to be? To me, that's a withdrawal symptom... Have you ever desperately craved spinach after not eating it? I haven't.

In any event, I read that article last week and it is eye-opening to say the least. It makes me that much happier that I've stopped eating processed foods.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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So what do you consider the cravings for junk food to be? To me, that's a withdrawal symptom... Have you ever desperately craved spinach after not eating it? I haven't.
I was just thinking about that. If I get a craving it's for something like macaroni and cheese or chocolate peanut butter pie, never for a nice spinach salad or a piece of grilled salmon.
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:47 PM
 
Location: "Daytonnati"
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The article is based off a book. I have it on order in my library at im #9 on the waiting list!

There is another one out, sounds similar, called Pandora's Lunchbox.


Heres' a book review from the WSJ on both books:

What's Lurking in Your Pantry


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What's scary is how many foods people think are healthy that have tons of hidden crap in them like the spaghetti sauce filled with sugar
Yeah, that was a suprise to me when I started reading labels. The added sugar...really HFCS.... in stuff you dont think has sugar in it...like certain pickle brands, for example.
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:49 PM
 
Location: "Daytonnati"
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Would you all consider mac n' cheese "processed"? I think the stuff that comes in the box with that little package of cheese powder, yeah, but how about home-made, using real cheese and butter?

Would you consider pasta processed? Its just noodles, right?

From the book review I linked:

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Melanie Warner, for her part, admits that no one can avoid all processed and packaged foods. In the spirit of "everything in moderation," she suggests reversing the ratio of the American diet today, so that our processed-food intake goes down to 70% and the rest comes from "foods that have had a relatively direct and boring journey from the farm—foods that are, for the most part, grown not made."

It's advice reminiscent of Michael Pollan's maxim, which I've found to be the simplest and most straightforward: "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Would you all consider mac n' cheese "processed"? I think the stuff that comes in the box with that little package of cheese powder, yeah, but how about home-made, using real cheese and butter?

Would you consider pasta processed? Its just noodles, right?
I definitely consider pasta processed... have you ever seen a pasta tree? It's made from Wheat after it has been ground and processed a lot and then put in the box. Cheese is border-line in my opinion. I love it but it's definitely not something that is found in nature the same way eggs, fruits, vegetables, meats and seafood are.

IMO, if it comes in a box or a bag and can just sit out on a shelf for months, then yes, it is processed.
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