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What if say you are a child, who has aspirations to become a professional american football player? Will you need to consume red meat during your formative to grow into the large, hulking brute for football?
Now of course there are plenty of pro football players that are vegans and they attest to how much better that diet is for football, but I doubt they did this growing up. Would they still have grown into that size and strength without the red meat they ate as children and teens?
You can get that from mushrooms, *and* there's no evidence that CLA has any use in humans. Therefore, for humans, it isn't a nutrient anyway so it doesn't matter what source it comes from.
Actually Anon, there is more evidence coming out every day that CLA has many uses for the human body and it appears that it can do things like fight cancer, lower body fat while preserving muscle, improve insulin sensitivity, and help those with asthma get off their inhalers. About your mushrooms, well funny that you mentioned them, b/c I remember reading something a number of years ago (back before they discovered about phytonutrients) that said there was no earthly reason to eat mushrooms unless you just really, really like them and that they may even be kind of bad for you. This was scientific in nature, not just someone's opinion. It said there was almost no food on earth more devoid in nutrients. LOL. We've certainly learned a lot about them since then, haven't we? I read almost the same thing about celery, but turns out that it has a very potent phytonutrient in it called apigenin that cuts off the blood supply to a tumor, among other interesting benefits. It also has a PN called luteolin that helps to fight dementia. So much for your empty foods.
For those who know much less about this than anon, it is a fatty acid and it remains to be seen if it's essential but I'm betting that it is. It is found in greater quantities in grassfed beef and dairy and in higher fat dairy. Skim milk has very little.
What if say you are a child, who has aspirations to become a professional american football player? Will you need to consume red meat during your formative to grow into the large, hulking brute for football?
No, there is nothing in red meat that you can't get from other foods. Actually red meat has lower quality protein than most seafood so you're better off eating the seafood.
Red meat has nothing to do with how large and muscular one gets and, in fact, you don't need to eat meat at all to get huge. There are a lot of people that have grown up vegetarian and they aren't smaller than those that eat meat so there is no reason to suspect a vegetarian diet + fish would reduce ones growth.
For those who know much less about this than anon, it is a fatty acid and it remains to be seen if it's essential but I'm betting that it is. It is found in greater quantities in grassfed beef and dairy and in higher fat dairy. Skim milk has very little.
How does it remain to be seen? Fatty acids have been extensively researched and there are only two essential fats, namely, omega-6 and omega-3.
There are a lot of populations that don't eat red meat or milk.
What if say you are a child, who has aspirations to become a professional american football player? Will you need to consume red meat during your formative to grow into the large, hulking brute for football?
Now of course there are plenty of pro football players that are vegans and they attest to how much better that diet is for football, but I doubt they did this growing up. Would they still have grown into that size and strength without the red meat they ate as children and teens?
I wouldn't say its just red meat, it's really just adequate levels of complete protein, along with lots of nutrients, vitamins and minerals. And also lots of sleep.
How does it remain to be seen? Fatty acids have been extensively researched and there are only two essential fats, namely, omega-6 and omega-3.
Given the information that we know for sure now, you're right. My point to anon was that there is so much we don't know yet and that's why I told her about the mushrooms and celery being thought at one time to have no nutrition. Now, of course, we know better.
What if say you are a child, who has aspirations to become a professional american football player? Will you need to consume red meat during your formative to grow into the large, hulking brute for football?
Now of course there are plenty of pro football players that are vegans and they attest to how much better that diet is for football, but I doubt they did this growing up. Would they still have grown into that size and strength without the red meat they ate as children and teens?
What does this have to do with the topic? The topic (in case you forgot) is "What nutrients can only land meat give you, and can you be healthy without it?"
The answer is: none. There are no nutrients that you can only get from land meat.
Given the information that we know for sure now, you're right. My point to anon was that there is so much we don't know yet and that's why I told her about the mushrooms and celery being thought at one time to have no nutrition. Now, of course, we know better.
So you agree with me: there are no nutrients that only land meat can give you, which you would not be healthy without.
Sure, there might be nutrients that only land meat can provide - but there is no evidence that any of those nutrients are essential for human life. All of the nutrients that are essential for human life, can be found in foods that do not fall into the category "land meat."
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