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Old 11-19-2018, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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I will confess that the "sugar, salt and fat" idea is not original with me, but the central focus of a book that came out this last year. I've forgotten who the author is, but he appeared on Bill Maher and it was the first I'd heard of Intermittent Fasting. I'll look for it.

Can't seem to find it. The "sugar, salt and fat" thing, IIRC, was mentioned in the context of the complaints about food marketing and how it was focused on sales versus public health. For example, cheese is inserted into everything, despite its high fat content. And everyone knows there's sugar in everything, including things like lunch meat. The contention of the author is that these things are in the food because they're addictive and increase sales. There is no regard for things like obesity, heart disease, hypertension, so on.

It is a known fact that the makers of processed food engineer it looking for that perfect combo of salt, sugar and fat to make it as "addictive" as possible. They do focus groups and then go tweak whatever they are making. I find it unconscionable.

BUT, I know this, and don't eat it very often.
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Old 11-19-2018, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Outside US
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....the complaints about food marketing and how it was focused on sales versus public health. For example, cheese is inserted into everything, despite its high fat content. And everyone knows there's sugar in everything, including things like lunch meat. The contention of the author is that these things are in the food because they're addictive and increase sales. There is no regard for things like obesity, heart disease, hypertension, so on.
Yes, the food lobbyists and the food industry only care about profits. The health consequences are not important.

As for cheese, the US govt started promoting cheese consumption to support dairy farmers. Dr. Mark Hyman did a piece on this.

US Milk is banned in many European and Asian countries.

Toxins, preservatives, hormones and anti-biotics in mass produced meat, and HFCs and PUFAs are everywhere around us.

I started avoided all processed foods and oils about 2 months ago and already feel and look better, not to mention losing lots of kilos.
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Old 11-19-2018, 08:07 PM
 
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Yes, the food lobbyists and the food industry only care about profits. The health consequences are not important.

As for cheese, the US govt started promoting cheese consumption to support dairy farmers. Dr. Mark Hyman did a piece on this.

US Milk is banned in many European and Asian countries.

Toxins, preservatives, hormones and anti-biotics in mass produced meat, and HFCs and PUFAs are everywhere around us.

I started avoided all processed foods and oils about 2 months ago and already feel and look better, not to mention losing lots of kilos.
This sounds gross, but apparently a certain percentage of pus is within federal limits in dairy products. Dairy is one thing that is truly easy to give up, since alternatives are so delicious, whether one cares about the abusive nature of the industry or not.
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Old 11-20-2018, 05:57 AM
 
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This sounds gross, but apparently a certain percentage of pus is within federal limits in dairy products. Dairy is one thing that is truly easy to give up, since alternatives are so delicious, whether one cares about the abusive nature of the industry or not.
As for me, I stopped drinking milk sometime in my teens just because I didn't feel the need.

I stopped eating cheese a few months ago for a temporary health issue that's minor.


Eggs are not dairy but I'll note:

Eggs yes, until a couple of months ago (trying to overcome that same health issue that's not life threatening. Not sure if eggs obstruct my healing but I didn't want to take the chance).

Yogurt: use to eat a little here and there but the pro-bio bennies are useless.

I liked Kefir but haven't had it in a long time.

So basically, I'm off dairy. I never even think about it.
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Old 11-20-2018, 06:49 AM
 
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It is a known fact that the makers of processed food engineer it looking for that perfect combo of salt, sugar and fat to make it as "addictive" as possible. They do focus groups and then go tweak whatever they are making. I find it unconscionable.

BUT, I know this, and don't eat it very often.
They make food for profit, why wouldn't they try and come up with the most appealing blend possible? I never blamed pizza or Chinese food for my lifelong struggles with obesity, I blamed myself for overindulging.

It's like why I don't blame tobacco companies for lung cancer, they're all about profits.
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Old 11-20-2018, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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It is a known fact that the makers of processed food engineer it looking for that perfect combo of salt, sugar and fat to make it as "addictive" as possible.
Thus the diabolical "Doritos Locos Taco".
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Old 11-21-2018, 02:16 PM
 
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:15 PM
 
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It is a known fact that the makers of processed food engineer it looking for that perfect combo of salt, sugar and fat to make it as "addictive" as possible. They do focus groups and then go tweak whatever they are making. I find it unconscionable.

BUT, I know this, and don't eat it very often.
Very true. Also, advertisers are using science to sell as much of the junk as possible. Finally, the supermarkets display foods that is planned to entice you. Candy is placed right by the checkout counter, for example. I'd be in favor of junk food taxes - taxes are what worked to curtail smoking.
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Old 11-21-2018, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Very true. Also, advertisers are using science to sell as much of the junk as possible. Finally, the supermarkets display foods that is planned to entice you. Candy is placed right by the checkout counter, for example. I'd be in favor of junk food taxes - taxes are what worked to curtail smoking.
At least where I do my shopping (Raley's) it's kind of interesting what the impulse buy checkout aisle consists of now. There's no more regular candy bars. There's still candy bars but they're some weird stuff that I'm too old to recognize and there aren't all that many. It's mostly gum, KIND bars, Clif Bar type stuff, beef jerky. If you want a Reese's peanut butter cup, you got to the junk food aisle. You won't find it at the checkout stand. If there's a refrigerator there's as much space in it full of weird kombucha tea type stuff as regular soda.

I figure they just put stuff that sells there. Since Hershey bars don't sell anymore around here, they've replaced them with a few fancy candy bars. I'm sure markup is also a factor. They probably make us much profit selling a fancy candy bar as five Snickers. But then I never make it to the grocery store checkout hungry. I try not to shop hungry but if I do I just start eating something that's not awful while I'm shopping so that type of stuff is less tempting.
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:09 AM
 
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It is a worldwide epidemic and its getting worse. I read this article about UK https://www.theguardian.com/society/...2030-men-women
74% men and 64% women estimated to be obese 2030 in UK.
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