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Old 07-17-2018, 12:28 AM
 
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Bingo.

I’d rather eat a banana that is high in potassium, b6 and has 3g of fiber than a candy bar, chips and other trash. This whole war on sugar is no different than the war on fat, to the point where wholesome, delicious fruit is forbidden (wtf?). Seriously folks there’s nothing wrong with liking things that are sweet. It’s one of many “tastes” one experiences. There is no concrete proof that a banana will cause fat gain. Every single thing that contains calories can contribute to weight gain there’s no magical substance that makes you gain just like there’s no magical substance that will make you lose either.

I’ll be damned if I have any restrictions as to what to eat again. It’s been two years since I’ve kissed obesity goodbye and I did it eating lots and lots of things. Life is too short. And yes I do work out, which most people who aren’t infirm should

Agree~~ Every morning after I wake-up I have an 8oz glass of water with 2TBS of Braggs Apple Cinder Vinegar with Mother and drink it while preparing my breakfast .. I take a banana and some strawberries, blueberries, raisins along with mix crushed nuts, pumpkin seeds, raw hemp seeds and dash of cinnamon and mix this all into my oat grouts in a large bowl! This sticks to my ribs for hours 9AM -4PM when I have dinner! Been doing this for 9 years, no weight issues! The body knows what to do with fruits, veggies and grains! I do buy from the local certified organic framers, markets or grow our own, we don't consume fast food or processed foods, I bake & cook our own meals..If I snake I reach for healthy options, dates, mix nuts, smoothie, juicing, avocados, peanut butter, etc, etc! I don't restrict myself, I still have pizza, the difference is I make it from scratch, so I know what's going into it and on it! ... I don't consume meats, not vegan I just don't care for it! Yes I get moving 5 days a week! Peace Out!
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Garbage, NC
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Bingo.

I’d rather eat a banana that is high in potassium, b6 and has 3g of fiber than a candy bar, chips and other trash. This whole war on sugar is no different than the war on fat, to the point where wholesome, delicious fruit is forbidden (wtf?). Seriously folks there’s nothing wrong with liking things that are sweet. It’s one of many “tastes” one experiences. There is no concrete proof that a banana will cause fat gain. Every single thing that contains calories can contribute to weight gain there’s no magical substance that makes you gain just like there’s no magical substance that will make you lose either.

I’ll be damned if I have any restrictions as to what to eat again. It’s been two years since I’ve kissed obesity goodbye and I did it eating lots and lots of things. Life is too short. And yes I do work out, which most people who aren’t infirm should
Yes!

Unless we are talking about people who have very specific dietary needs (because of allergies, sensitivities, medical issues, etc.) or someone who has legitimately been trying a standard, moderate diet but has not had any success, moderation is key.

Also, those who are already at a healthy weight and who have been consuming a relatively healthy diet but who are looking to lose a few vanity pounds may need to follow a very specific diet in order to achieve the results that they are looking for.

I think it's particularly dangerous and irresponsible to promote ideas like "bananas aren't healthy" or "you have to stop eating carbs in order to lose weight" or "only keto diets work" toward the average overweight or obese person who is trying to lose weight.

Many people who are overweight or obese haven't been practicing moderation very well to start with. I don't mean this to be hateful or judgmental. Now, when a person in this situation decides to start trying to lose weight, giving them a laundry list of things that they can't eat -- including foods that they may have always heard were healthy -- is likely to only make them give up..."See, I knew I couldn't stick to this."

I will never tell an overweight person that they are making the wrong decision if they get a turkey sub from Subway instead of a Quarter Pounder from McDonald's. I will never tell someone who grabbed a banana instead of a bag of chips that they made some horrible nutritional decision. And it's going to be hard for someone to convince me that a person who is eating a chicken breast, a scoop of white rice and a banana for lunch is having an "unhealthy" meal.
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Old 07-18-2018, 01:25 AM
 
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All of the information provided about bananas is very nice, but I wanted to hear Steve's reason, and haven't yet.

At different points in my life I've treated bananas as a staple, mainly re the potassium they contain, but they've sort of lost their appeal for me.

I haven't had one, I think, for a couple of years.
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Old 07-18-2018, 03:52 AM
 
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All about cutting out refined sugars.

Gov't should be running PSA's on how to avoid refined sugars and eat whole foods 24/7. And health eating advocacy should focus on this as well. That Katie Couric "Fed Up" doc was pretty good in covering this.

It isn't about Mediterranean diet or plant based or vegan or vegetarian or atkins or whatever, it's mainly about cutting out garbage and eating whole foods rather than food like products.
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:47 AM
 
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They're super high in sugar, and have virtually no fiber to slow down the influence of the sugar on your system. But to comment on Steve's post, fruits like pears and apples also have a lot of sugar: fructose. People aiming to lose weight should avoid those, too. Berries have plenty of nutrients, with less sugar content, and some berries are high in fiber (strawberries, blackberries, raspberries), so they don't cause the same sugar load as a pear would.
I gotta ask, what's your research based upon? I have a small army of medical professionals, including two nutritionists, who recommend banana's as an excellent option. The nutritional impact is well-balanced, the taste generally appealing and it's a clean, easy to prepare snack.

I love forums like City Data and social media in general, but every now and again I see advice like this which runs contrary to popularly held beliefs, but not supported by anything more than "because I said so" logic, and it drives me nuts.
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Old 07-21-2018, 06:41 PM
 
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All of the information provided about bananas is very nice, but I wanted to hear Steve's reason, and haven't yet.

At different points in my life I've treated bananas as a staple, mainly re the potassium they contain, but they've sort of lost their appeal for me.

I haven't had one, I think, for a couple of years.
I'm not "Steve" but I eat one banana, one apple (usually Granny Smith variety) and one grapefruit almost every day. I agree that there's nothing wrong with a banana for the potassium as any sugar it provides will be burned off with my daily activity.
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Old 07-21-2018, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Yes!

Unless we are talking about people who have very specific dietary needs (because of allergies, sensitivities, medical issues, etc.) or someone who has legitimately been trying a standard, moderate diet but has not had any success, moderation is key.

Also, those who are already at a healthy weight and who have been consuming a relatively healthy diet but who are looking to lose a few vanity pounds may need to follow a very specific diet in order to achieve the results that they are looking for.

I think it's particularly dangerous and irresponsible to promote ideas like "bananas aren't healthy" or "you have to stop eating carbs in order to lose weight" or "only keto diets work" toward the average overweight or obese person who is trying to lose weight.

Many people who are overweight or obese haven't been practicing moderation very well to start with. I don't mean this to be hateful or judgmental. Now, when a person in this situation decides to start trying to lose weight, giving them a laundry list of things that they can't eat -- including foods that they may have always heard were healthy -- is likely to only make them give up..."See, I knew I couldn't stick to this."

I will never tell an overweight person that they are making the wrong decision if they get a turkey sub from Subway instead of a Quarter Pounder from McDonald's. I will never tell someone who grabbed a banana instead of a bag of chips that they made some horrible nutritional decision. And it's going to be hard for someone to convince me that a person who is eating a chicken breast, a scoop of white rice and a banana for lunch is having an "unhealthy" meal.
What a great post. Worth repeating. Want to know why most diet plans give this startling fact - "For most, weight loss is temporary"?? Because when faced with the test of time, most people return to old form and regain all of the lost weight. I'm sorry, but as an overweight person, I was destined to fail with any diet program that preached elimination of any food group. What I *needed* to learn was how to eat everyday foods in moderation. I needed to learn that activity was not a bad thing. I needed to learn how to make better food choices in a variety of situations. What I needed to learn was that real life dictates that I can't follow some "diet plan" day in and day out, or expect a restaurant to cater to my plan. Shelving bananas would not solve my issues whatsoever. I ultimately lost over a third of my body weight by practicing calorie management and making exercise a focus (as much as eating) of my life. I may never be the best dieter, but I bust my butt in the gym.

I'd rather my kids continue to eat bananas than consume the crap around them. I'd rather, if they do eat a crap item, continue to listen to the cues of their bodies and if they're full STOP EATING. Something that so many can't do! My kids are thin as rails and a large part of that is because they're active, they push away from the table when they're full, and balance junk and wholesome food.
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Old 07-22-2018, 12:48 PM
 
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I gotta ask, what's your research based upon? I have a small army of medical professionals, including two nutritionists, who recommend banana's as an excellent option. The nutritional impact is well-balanced, the taste generally appealing and it's a clean, easy to prepare snack.

I love forums like City Data and social media in general, but every now and again I see advice like this which runs contrary to popularly held beliefs, but not supported by anything more than "because I said so" logic, and it drives me nuts.
That and when people don't challenge what they're told and just assume everything their doctor, or worse, a website, says is right.

Ask 10 different doctors, get 10 different answers. At least 9 of them are wrong. You'd better ask questions.
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Old 07-22-2018, 01:14 PM
 
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Bingo.

I’d rather eat a banana that is high in potassium, b6 and has 3g of fiber than a candy bar, chips and other trash. This whole war on sugar is no different than the war on fat, to the point where wholesome, delicious fruit is forbidden (wtf?). Seriously folks there’s nothing wrong with liking things that are sweet. It’s one of many “tastes” one experiences. There is no concrete proof that a banana will cause fat gain. Every single thing that contains calories can contribute to weight gain there’s no magical substance that makes you gain just like there’s no magical substance that will make you lose either.

I’ll be damned if I have any restrictions as to what to eat again. It’s been two years since I’ve kissed obesity goodbye and I did it eating lots and lots of things. Life is too short. And yes I do work out, which most people who aren’t infirm should
Good post. I’ve never had a weight issue, but have supported friends that do. Highly restricted diets, in the abscence of a medical reason, are unnecessarily difficult to stick to long term. Balancing calories in/out is enough for weight loss. Exercise is not even necessary to lose weight, but wonderful for overall quality of life and energy levels.

I eat a well balanced mostly healthy diet. But, I also have occasional sweets, alcohol and all manner of delightful things that I enjoy. I just don’t over indulge and exercise most days of the week. Simple.
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Old 07-22-2018, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I'm sitting here right now enjoying a glass of wine. The only thing I cannot eat is wheat. I'm OK with that. Everything else works fine in moderation.

This isn't some fad thing, it's just my reality. I wish it wasn't the case in fact, because I like wheat products in general. But I've been able to find great substitutes for those few meals that call for pasta or bread.
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