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Old 11-27-2018, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Encino, CA
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This is a good article on how the scale can sometimes fool people when it comes to getting healthier/fit. Its a tool that has a part in every fitness/health plan, but its much much better to use fitness goals (i.e., benchmark tests) as a true measure of getting fit/improving health. Its why I like to track my fitness levels with timed workouts like:

5k Run time
100 squats as fast as possible time
Tabata scores
100 pullups as fast as possible time

You get the picture.

The "Screw the Scale Transformations" article is below:

https://www.popsugar.com/fitness/Scr...-mindbodygreen
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Old 11-27-2018, 06:29 PM
 
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There are people who can do 100 pull ups? I can do twelve in a row and if I stacked sets, can maybe make it to somewhere between 40-50 before reaching my limit.

I'm not a scale-lover but for most morbidly obese people, it's the most important tool to measure progress. Since reaching my own goals mid-year 2017 though I find that the scale has lost most of its value, but it was essential during my active losing period.
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Old 11-27-2018, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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What does one do when:

No running (hurts my back)
No squats (also hurts my back)
Tabata scores (never heard of it)
No pullups (bad shoulders from playing ball for a quarter century)

I use the scale!
And my blood sugar meter + A1C numbers.
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Old 11-27-2018, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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This is a good article on how the scale can sometimes fool people when it comes to getting healthier/fit. Its a tool that has a part in every fitness/health plan, but its much much better to use fitness goals (i.e., benchmark tests) as a true measure of getting fit/improving health. Its why I like to track my fitness levels with timed workouts like:

5k Run time
100 squats as fast as possible time
Tabata scores
100 pullups as fast as possible time

You get the picture.

The "Screw the Scale Transformations" article is below:

https://www.popsugar.com/fitness/Scr...-mindbodygreen
Every time I see squats I think of a friend who had two knee replacements and deals with issues and blames his doing squats too much in his life.

I have not had a scale in my life for probably 40 yrs. I know when I've gained or lost some weight.
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Old 11-27-2018, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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Every time I see squats I think of a friend who had two knee replacements and deals with issues and blames his doing squats too much in his life.
I tried doing one of those Les Mills cardio classes. They did a lot of squats.
Then one day my back went out doing them. Missed three weeks.
That was the end of the squats.
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Old 11-28-2018, 06:32 AM
 
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I tried doing one of those Les Mills cardio classes. They did a lot of squats.
Then one day my back went out doing them. Missed three weeks.
That was the end of the squats.
I started a new workout program about three years ago and one of the featured exercises was squats (while holding dumbbells). My legs were so sore after the first day that I literally couldn't walk up/down stairs for nearly a week. I honestly believe that we should only mimic natural and normal motions when exercising, not putting odd strains on specific muscle groups (it's why I won't use a prayer bench when curling). I think of it as the Karate Kid training mentality (wax on, wax off).
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Old 11-28-2018, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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I honestly believe that we should only mimic natural and normal motions when exercising.
I'm still in an old-school step class.
I can go up and down the stairs a lot easier than I used to, so it appears to be a relevant exercise.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:46 AM
 
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I started a new workout program about three years ago and one of the featured exercises was squats (while holding dumbbells). My legs were so sore after the first day that I literally couldn't walk up/down stairs for nearly a week. I honestly believe that we should only mimic natural and normal motions when exercising, not putting odd strains on specific muscle groups (it's why I won't use a prayer bench when curling). I think of it as the Karate Kid training mentality (wax on, wax off).
I feel the same way - I do squats, but only body squats now. I injured myself badly using a heavy kettlebell doing squats. Squats are a good exercise, but no one needs to be doing 100s of them daily. I do a couple sets a few times per week along with walking lunges. At 69 y.o. my only fitness goal is to be functionally fit. I keep my weight at a healthy level, ride bike daily, quit going to the gym. For me, using those weights was unnatural - at home the only thing I use is my Total Trainer, for sets of rows - very good for my back, arms and posture.

As to the scale, I quit weighing daily - it just does not tell the whole story.
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:08 AM
 
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I feel the same way - I do squats, but only body squats now. I injured myself badly using a heavy kettlebell doing squats. Squats are a good exercise, but no one needs to be doing 100s of them daily. I do a couple sets a few times per week along with walking lunges. At 69 y.o. my only fitness goal is to be functionally fit. I keep my weight at a healthy level, ride bike daily, quit going to the gym. For me, using those weights was unnatural - at home the only thing I use is my Total Trainer, for sets of rows - very good for my back, arms and posture.

As to the scale, I quit weighing daily - it just does not tell the whole story.
I'm 54 myself and my short-term goal is to maintain muscle tone (minimal jiggly-bits). But longer term, movement and balanced exercise is what I'm aiming for. I don't need to be buff at 65, only fit enough to enjoy a hike or maybe an occasional slow jog.
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:14 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Measurements, measurements, measurements. My trainer told me to throw out the scale. Stop with the scale obsession. Just STOP. I am a 40 something petite woman, and so many things can cause the scale not to budge: hormones, salt, stress, and just being a 40 something petite woman that no matter what I do, it can be extremely difficult to lose weight. Therefore, eat right, keep the calorie deficit going, and lift. I will notice the change in my clothes and my measurements. Women can't get the scale out of their heads, and that can sabotage progress.
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