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Old 07-26-2007, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Camano Island, WA
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Do you let your dog bark incessantly at your neighbors? If so, then yes, I think that is irresponsible. I am of the opinion that the excuse of "dogs just bark" is a bad one. You are welcome to disagree with my opinion, that is your prerogative and the very nature of opinions.
To answer your first question, no, I do not let my dogs bark incessantly.
And I don't believe that anyone else stated that they do either.
Thanks for giving me the run down of what opinions are ...lol



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Reading through with the (IMO)unbiased eye of a new-to-this-forum reader I felt a great many posts had a tone that was both surprising and disappointing TO ME, in my opinion.



EVERYONE is welcome to disagree with my opinion, WE ALL have the right to share our opinions and stand by them even if they are unpopular amongst the City-Data PETS forum lovefest.

You're right...it is *your* opinion. ...and I totally understand your *sarcastic* one at that. Be the rebel that you are...lol
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:16 PM
 
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I've said, I'm happy to agree to disagree. I don't expect everyone to agree with my opinions.
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Jax
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We probably all have slightly differing opinions about how much barking is too much.

If my dog sees my neighbor and gives two barks, is that too much?

What if my dog barks six times?

Should there be zero barks? (Ideally, I suppose so)


I guess one barometer is "has anyone complained to me about my dog's barking?"

I know I've made subtle hints (and some not so subtle) to my neighbor about their tiny dog's continual barking whenever I'm on that side of my yard.

I've come right out and said "yeah, ever since you put in your glass front door, she sees my every move out here, she barks up a storm." Do you think he gets it? No. All he hears is 'cute, cute, cute, my dog is so cute when she barks!'........lost cause !
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:48 AM
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Location: Sebastian/ FL
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We probably all have slightly differing opinions about how much barking is too much.

If my dog sees my neighbor and gives two barks, is that too much?

What if my dog barks six times?

Should there be zero barks? (Ideally, I suppose so)


I guess one barometer is "has anyone complained to me about my dog's barking?"

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Is there a "Bark-o-meter" out there ?
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:53 AM
 
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We probably all have slightly differing opinions about how much barking is too much.

If my dog sees my neighbor and gives two barks, is that too much?

What if my dog barks six times?

Should there be zero barks? (Ideally, I suppose so)


I guess one barometer is "has anyone complained to me about my dog's barking?"

I know I've made subtle hints (and some not so subtle) to my neighbor about their tiny dog's continual barking whenever I'm on that side of my yard.

I've come right out and said "yeah, ever since you put in your glass front door, she sees my every move out here, she barks up a storm." Do you think he gets it? No. All he hears is 'cute, cute, cute, my dog is so cute when she barks!'........lost cause !
I agree, you can't put a number on it so it.
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Old 07-28-2007, 02:43 AM
 
Location: Kansas City Metro area
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There is alot of talk about noise ordinances, but they generally do not apply to dogs. However, disturbing the peace generally does. If the guy is running his mower it should not apply, if he his having a glass of tea it probably does. Another thing to consider, if the guy is serious, he could initiate a civil action against you. That would be way more costly than a new privacy fence.

For the poster that put up beware of dog signs, bad idea. Check with your insurance company, you may have lost your liability coverage with those signs. That is admitting you are aware your dogs are agressive, and limits your defence if they bite someone, dogs bark and they also bite, even the good ones.
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Old 07-28-2007, 03:08 AM
 
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I was told to put up signs that say Beware of Dogs because it let the kids and the neighbors know that dogs can and do bite, even the best of dogs, so they would not aggravate my dogs by throwing rocks and sticks at them. I have four dogs and they have not bitten anyone but I am careful and like to warn people that dogs can be a problem.
Everyone who loves dogs knows that if a dog is provoked it often strikes back, that's why the signs. If my dogs were to bite someone my insurance would go up and probably another reason for to cancel the policy. Letting people know to stay away from the dogs is a good idea.
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Old 07-28-2007, 03:29 AM
 
Location: Kansas City Metro area
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I was told to put up signs that say Beware of Dogs because it let the kids and the neighbors know that dogs can and do bite, even the best of dogs, so they would not aggravate my dogs by throwing rocks and sticks at them. I have four dogs and they have not bitten anyone but I am careful and like to warn people that dogs can be a problem.
Everyone who loves dogs knows that if a dog is provoked it often strikes back, that's why the signs. If my dogs were to bite someone my insurance would go up and probably another reason for to cancel the policy. Letting people know to stay away from the dogs is a good idea.
I worked as an investigator for a major insurance company. Liability wise the signs will hang you in civil court, period. The signs may, probably will, negate your liability coverage, leaving you alone with judgement and the fees. Your reasons are good natured, but what about the child that can not read. The signs are your admission that you know the dogs bite and/or are aggressive. This negates your "first bite free" defence. Again check with your insurance company, the claims division, or a local attorney about liability. The signs are always a bad idea legally, period.
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Jax
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I worked as an investigator for a major insurance company. Liability wise the signs will hang you in civil court, period. The signs may, probably will, negate your liability coverage, leaving you alone with judgement and the fees. Your reasons are good natured, but what about the child that can not read. The signs are your admission that you know the dogs bite and/or are aggressive. This negates your "first bite free" defence. Again check with your insurance company, the claims division, or a local attorney about liability. The signs are always a bad idea legally, period.
Great info Crashcop, thanks !

What about a sign that said something along the lines of "Dogs At Play"? I've seen those and they look cute (I don't currently have any signage). Would they hurt your case also?
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Kansas City Metro area
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Great info Crashcop, thanks !

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What about a sign that said something along the lines of "Dogs At Play"? I've seen those and they look cute (I don't currently have any signage). Would they hurt your case also?
I have never seen those signs, I believe they would not harm you in a liability action. It would be wise to check with the claims division of the insurance company you use for your homeowners/rental coverage.
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