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Old 03-15-2014, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte
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Look for,this to be challenged in court, big time.
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Old 03-15-2014, 06:31 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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Look for,this to be challenged in court, big time.
so it goes.

The abuse employers are perpetrating needs to stop.
Either pay "managers" the $1 an hour more than the fry cook that they have budgeted for
and have them all clock in/out or cut their hours to what the job should be and by that give their
"managers" a raise or the ability to spend that other 20-30 hours a week doing what THEY want.
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It's not just the FF industry that will be affected.

What about teachers ? They work more than their contracted hours.
Are you ready for your property taxes to go up to pay for overtime hours ?
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:23 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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It's not just the FF industry that will be affected.

What about teachers ? They work more than their contracted hours.
Are you ready for your property taxes to go up to pay for overtime hours ?
Are you advocating for theft and malfeasance instead?
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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I know of one major retail store that typically had 2 Asst Managers. They were on salary and were expected to work about 60 hours a week ach. If they now had to be paid overtime then it will be cheaper for the store to hire another manager then it will be to pay the existing 3 managers overtime.

There was a court case in CA concerning Staple's using the practice of giving useless manager titles and working them long hours at a fixed salary. This is a common practice in retail stores.
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:37 AM
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Location: 3rd rock from a nearby star
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This change will convert many low paid exempt workers to hourly workers. IMO companies have been abusing this labor carve out for some time. Raising the income threshold seems appropriate.
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:43 AM
Zot
 
Location: 3rd rock from a nearby star
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It's not just the FF industry that will be affected.

What about teachers ? They work more than their contracted hours.
Are you ready for your property taxes to go up to pay for overtime hours ?
Does this affect those with union labor contracts?
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Old 03-15-2014, 08:08 AM
 
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Look for,this to be challenged in court, big time.
Yep, doesn't mean it shouldn't happen though.
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Old 03-15-2014, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Are you advocating for theft and malfeasance instead?
No, I just asked a simple question.

Are you ready to pay increased property taxes to pay overtime to teachers ?
I'm sure there are other public sector workers that will benefit from this change if it goes through.
Increased taxes is the only way to pay for public sector overtime hours that aren't in budgets.
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Old 03-15-2014, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Does this affect those with union labor contracts?
It's based on min salary per week so it shouldn't matter whether it's union or not.
The unions will adjust their contracts I'm sure.
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