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Old 10-27-2014, 09:06 AM
 
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That's disgusting! The top 10% have made sure they can have their,yachts, 3 or 4 beach homes, while their employees struggle to make ends meet. Once greed took over in this country back in the 80's it's been downhill for the majority of Americans ever since.
I will say it AGAIN.

Those who believe that the well off and wealthy in this country have become successful by TAKING AWAY from you and others are so misguided and clueless.

There is no pile of money that the rich are hoarding and won't let you have any of it.


AND, better check your numbers bub. 10% encompasses many more people than you realize. I'm in the top 10% and I don't have a yacht, 4 beach homes etc.....

Educate yourself people and stop just believing what the media is feeding you. Hint: there's an agenda behind what they are brainwashing you with. It's all about votes. Wake up
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Florida
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We have a government that allows illegals to enter this country and destroy good middle class jobs with stagnate wages or even worse stolen jobs.
Picking fruit is a 'good middle class job'?
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:18 AM
 
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Lets put things in perspective

Americans have just about the highest living standard in the entire world

The minimum wage would put you in the top 5% worldwide

Astonishing Numbers: America's Poor Still Live Better Than Most Of The Rest Of Humanity - Forbes

We are the 1%: You need $34k income to be in the global elite... and half the world's richest live in the U.S. | Daily Mail Online

People in this country think the latest iphone and flatscreen TV is a right & entitlement up there with free health care and a government funded retirement.

Normal people don't need to spend 50K dollars per year
excellent post.


From articles:
"We’re often told that to be poor in the US is much worse than being poor in the social democracies of Europe. And the bottom 10% in the US are indeed worse off than the bottom 10% in Sweden. But they’re better off than the bottom 10% in Germany or France: places where we are told that there is indeed that social democracy.

Maybe there’s something for this capitalism red in tooth and claw then: given that it does seem to improve the lives of the poor.

Take another look as well: we know that Russia is where bloated plutocrats loot everything from the country: and yet the bottom 10% in the US have, by this measure at least, better lives than the top 10% in Russia. And the top 10% in Portugal (where I live) and Mexico.

I think we really might have to do some thinking about what is indeed the best system for the poor."
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Ashburn, VA
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There's some people out there making $30K who live comfortably... meanwhile others who make double or triple that amount struggle.
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:25 AM
 
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Even though every period of enormous immigration in this country's history coincidentally happened to be the periods of largest economic growth.

This whole "immigration ruins the economy" thing is played out and has been proven fallacious by anyone with even a 1st grade level of economic understanding time and time again.


Sure it might not effect the economy but lets ignore all those American middle class jobs that disappeared to illegals now living here. Not to mention the stagnate wages for the last 20 yrs., due to these same illegals flooding the work force. Keep those eyes closed to the dwindling middle class.
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:30 AM
 
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There's some people out there making $30K who live comfortably... meanwhile others who make double or triple that amount struggle.
I find this hard to believe. Where I live, it's impossible to live on 30k unless you have no car, are single, live with roommates, and have 0 discretionary income.
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:31 AM
 
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Sorry, this is not true.
Please review Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, Denmark and other Nordic Regional Countries. Not only is their standard of living higher, their life expectancy is longer and their earning and saving rates are astronomical compared to ours in the average US household.
Their employment standards are different and their employment is protected in ways that ours is not.

You are falsely comparing those Nordic region countries to the US.

They are not comparable and cannot be used intelligently as a model for the United States. Much smaller populations in each country and they are using their natural resources to support their programs/life styles.

That isn't feasible in the US with our population and size. Nice try though.

You and yours are trying hard to change the US in to some socialistic cesspool to fit your misguided wet dream of what society should be. It won't work here and it hasn't worked anywhere else.
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:35 AM
 
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I'd be curious to know where $50k gross household income provides a middle-class lifestyle for a family of four.
There are many places. See, as usual, you cannot fathom anything outside of your tiny little existence. There's a whole big world out there.

Lot's of places where family can live comfortably on $50k in Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Kansas, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, Oklahoma, Texas. Just to name a few.

sure, they aren't going to be in the metro areas of those places but to make broad statements like you do on virtually every topic shows your detachment from reality.
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:36 AM
 
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excellent post.


From articles:
"We’re often told that to be poor in the US is much worse than being poor in the social democracies of Europe. And the bottom 10% in the US are indeed worse off than the bottom 10% in Sweden. But they’re better off than the bottom 10% in Germany or France: places where we are told that there is indeed that social democracy.

Maybe there’s something for this capitalism red in tooth and claw then: given that it does seem to improve the lives of the poor.

Take another look as well: we know that Russia is where bloated plutocrats loot everything from the country: and yet the bottom 10% in the US have, by this measure at least, better lives than the top 10% in Russia. And the top 10% in Portugal (where I live) and Mexico.

I think we really might have to do some thinking about what is indeed the best system for the poor."

no it's a terrible post because it ignores Purchasing Power Parity. $34k in US does not make one global elite under US COL. .
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:41 AM
 
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Peasants,,the backbone of every nation.....Also the same people that topple governments,as history has shown.
When you see riots,they never contain people of comfortable means..So either idiots are poor or well to do people are idiots for ignoring the poor folks conditions....Either way most people are idiots and that is shown threw out history by overthrows,riots and wars...
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