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Boy are you missing the point. Middle class is about being able to have a family and afford to be able to provide food, shelter, and a little bit extra for them. That's not possible for the average person today. Wages have collapsed. Our standard of living has collapsed, regardless of whether people can afford cheap Chinese junk tvs for a measly couple hundred bucks.
One final point-
When I was a kid in the 80's, every family provided new clothes for kids as they grew up. There was no such thing as second hand clothing except for the hopelessly destitute. Nowadays it's common for families to clothe their children with 2nd hand clothing. This is not progress.
That's really just working class, not middle class.
Boy are you missing the point. Middle class is about being able to have a family and afford to be able to provide food, shelter, and a little bit extra for them. That's not possible for the average person today. Wages have collapsed. Our standard of living has collapsed, regardless of whether people can afford cheap Chinese junk tvs for a measly couple hundred bucks.
One final point-
When I was a kid in the 80's, every family provided new clothes for kids as they grew up. There was no such thing as second hand clothing except for the hopelessly destitute. Nowadays it's common for families to clothe their children with 2nd hand clothing. This is not progress.
You have selective memory.
I was also a kid in the 80's and I had lot's of 2nd hand clothing. My kids and their friends have lived much better than I and my friends did.
We have a government that allows illegals to enter this country and destroy good middle class jobs with stagnate wages or even worse stolen jobs.
It's the wealthy who are hiring them, why not complain about that aspect. During the Real Estate Building Boom, not only did many wealthy developer seek out illegals, many found ways to insure the direct access and pathway was wide open for illegals. But no one said a word to the developers who supported illegal labor.
It is again wealthy people who run sweat shops and seek out the illegals.
Don't blame it on the illegals, blame it on the American who seek them out.
In the 1980's, 1990's and early 2000's, everyone wanted a Mexican housekeeper, a mexican handi man or gardner, and they sought out mexicans for child care and some resulted to raise many kids who knew more about the mexican maid than they knew about their own parents.
Wow, I guess all those "skill workers" were just born that way. I'm glad you weren't around when I was unskilled. So nice of you to put that iron ceiling above those unskilled.
of course not, they had school, training, apprenticeships, mentors.
One final point-
When I was a kid in the 80's, every family provided new clothes for kids as they grew up. There was no such thing as second hand clothing except for the hopelessly destitute. Nowadays it's common for families to clothe their children with 2nd hand clothing. This is not progress.
Boy were you sheltered.
Shopping at the Salvation Army stores or Church Bazars did not start around 1985.
Clothes have always been passed down through families or donations.
I had a friend who was the 5th son. By the time he got his brothers stuff it was totally worn out.
Talk to your Grandmother about when she grew up.
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Don't all classes, even the [gasp!] upper classes, work?
