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Old 06-21-2021, 08:20 PM
 
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Which points to the notion that the property owner is more or less always somehow/someway at fault. If not why would the medical claims portion of policies more or less always pay?
Alright both of you are wrong and kinda right.

The owner of land is responsible under certain circumstances. The grass cutter was invited to the property and tripped over a hazard that could have been noticed and fixed. There was a payout from the liability insurance because the carrier recognized the case was worth X irrespective of fault. Juries decide damages. Damages are more than just the bills and lost wages. You have pain and suffering, and potentially disabilities (among others). Trip and falls are 50/50 so they probably took a discount and offered. Plaintiff accepted recognizing the risk. Very common

The other insurance you guys were thinking of was probably MedPay. MedPay pays the bills no questions. Even with med pay, you still can make a liability claim
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Old 06-22-2021, 07:33 AM
 
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Alright both of you are wrong and kinda right.

The owner of land is responsible under certain circumstances. The grass cutter was invited to the property and tripped over a hazard that could have been noticed and fixed. There was a payout from the liability insurance because the carrier recognized the case was worth X irrespective of fault. Juries decide damages. Damages are more than just the bills and lost wages. You have pain and suffering, and potentially disabilities (among others). Trip and falls are 50/50 so they probably took a discount and offered. Plaintiff accepted recognizing the risk. Very common

The other insurance you guys were thinking of was probably MedPay. MedPay pays the bills no questions. Even with med pay, you still can make a liability claim
I understand all that.

How does that run counter to what I wrote just above?
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Old 06-22-2021, 06:19 PM
 
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I understand all that.

How does that run counter to what I wrote just above?
Because MedPay has to pay out regardless of liability. They are two separate things
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Old 06-22-2021, 07:14 PM
 
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Because MedPay has to pay out regardless of liability. They are two separate things
Take a logical step back.

If there wasn't liability involved why would medical coverage pay in these situations?
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Old 06-22-2021, 08:05 PM
 
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Take a logical step back.

If there wasn't liability involved why would medical coverage pay in these situations?
Because they are two different coverages. You can have 0% liability but your insurer might pay out MedPay. MedPay is a separate concept.
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Old 06-23-2021, 01:34 AM
 
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That is how my buddies insurance worked when that woman fell on the lawn she shouldn’t have even been on .

Because it was his property they covered her bills , but she couldn’t get a penny for negligence….
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Old 06-23-2021, 08:17 AM
 
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Because they are two different coverages. You can have 0% liability but your insurer might pay out MedPay. MedPay is a separate concept.
Zero liability means there is no reason to pay either though liability or medical insurance. I get that lots of legal nuance is in play but I'm talking broadly.
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Old 06-23-2021, 08:19 AM
 
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That is how my buddies insurance worked when that woman fell on the lawn she shouldn’t have even been on .

Because it was his property they covered her bills , but she couldn’t get a penny for negligence….
Right. It sucks but the system has been honed over the centuries to enrich lawyers over all else.

One does not have to be negligent to be liable per these medical payouts.
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