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It appears facts don't interest you. And despite that it's a fact that cooperative economics are the basis by which corporations exist to control capital beyond their operation.
There is something you don't understand. I'm one of those capitalists. As a stockholder I own part of those evil corporations, so when they make money I make money! Capiche?
There is something you don't understand. I'm one of those capitalists. As a stockholder I own part of those evil corporations, so when they make money I make money! Capiche?
How is that a good thing, it is in way a reward system based on production.
Rather it is the commoditization of other people's labor, used by shareholders to make money for themselves. This type of private ownership funnels money into the hands of capital owners rather than capital producers.
This type of private ownership funnels money into the hands of capital owners rather than capital producers.
Now you get it! I'm one of those capital owners who is getting money funneled to me. I really enjoy getting money funneled to me! If you get yerself some capital you can do it too!
FACT: Socialism has never worked anywhere, ever, for any appreciable length of time.
FACT: Humans are not all equal. Some are more productive than others and want to reap the benefits of their hard work, not share it with the less productive.
FACT: OP will never start a commune, co-op, or business of any kind because OP is all talk and no action, like all armchair socialists.
FACT: Soros isn't getting his money's worth with OP's posts. Seriously weak quality, even at $0.015 a pop.
1. Yes it has, and it still does. Socialism in fact is the system that creates wealth within capitalist societies. Over 50% of US landmass has electric lines operated by electric cooperatives that allow consumer ownership of a constant product rather than private ownership which is just meant for the personal profit of those not involved with the consumption or production of the service/good.
2. No one claimed they are, I actual believe the more you produce, the more you receive, unlike capitalists who believe returns are based on state backed ownership claims and not production capacities.
3. Nonsense, I do more for my community than most people
4. More nonsense, it's a joke that you think Soros is a socialist when he's a hedge fund manager.
Now you get it! I'm one of those capital owners who is getting money funneled to me. I really enjoy getting money funneled to me. If you get yerself some capital you can do it too!
Ahh but that system is not sustainable or beneficial for everyone.
A free society based on mutual aid is the only way to limit the authoritarian powers of private and state industries over the populace.
Ahh but that system is not sustainable or beneficial for everyone.
A free society based on mutual aid is the only way to limit the authoritarian powers of private and state industries over the populace.
But I like my authoritarian powers. It's fun to get free money. All I had to do is plunk down my share of money and let them use it, knowing they might not even give it back. That's called risk. That's why I make money, because I let them use my money at the risk of losing it. The risk is why they pay me. That, and to buy you know, capital stuff.
But I like my authoritarian powers. It's fun to get free money. All I had to do is plunk down my share of money and let them use it, knowing they might not even give it back. That's called risk. That's why I make money, because I let them use my money at the risk of losing it. The risk is why they pay me. That, and to buy you know, capital stuff.
But risk itself is not worthy of reward.
If all your investment in stocks does is grow a network of preexisting production centers and collectivizes more labor under the purpose of company profits, you are not providing a service with your investments to benefit production.
Furthermore, even if you were, ownership of labor output belongs directly to the ones operating the capital, not external forces themselves that hope to use that output to benefit themselves (which itself turns the economic structure away from production that benefits of all of society to production that produces the highest profits).
Back to the risk factor, if you risk your money in a casino and win a lot more money in return, have you earned that money and is it healthy to give said person more control of other people's capital due to 'risk'?
If all your investment in stocks does is grow a network of preexisting production centers and collectivizes more labor under the purpose of company profits, you are not providing a service with your investments to benefit production.
Furthermore, even if you were, ownership of labor output belongs directly to the ones operating the capital, not external forces themselves that hope to use that output to benefit themselves (which itself turns the economic structure away from production that benefits of all of society to production that produces the highest profits).
Back to the risk factor, if you risk your money in a casino and win a lot more money in return, have you earned that money and is it healthy to give said person more control of other people's capital due to 'risk'?
Gambling is not risk.
Gambling relies on chance. Risk can be controlled for.
I'm done playing your silly game. Please, move to a socialist country. You'll love it!
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If you get yerself some capital you can do it too! 
