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to be clear i don't think there aren't people here to do the work. we have people here and they arent working. maybe these companies need to pay the people already here more money per hour?
I seriously question how many people are out there not working. I think there are more retired and newly asset-rich than we want to admit; they don't need to work anymore. The pandemic encouraged most of the remaining Boomers in the workforce to retire. It helps they are now asset-rich. The remaining Millennials and Gen Xers have moved up, and then their replacements simply do not exist.
We had a baby bust starting in 2000. So we are already 4 years into this smaller generation. No one's acknowledging this demographic inconvenient truth. The labor shortage will only get worse as the Great Recession generation born circa 2008-12, which is smaller still, hits the labor market. Births dropped off a cliff when the recession happened.
This will not get better and money is not the full problem. Yes, we need immigration.
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I think fear of getting Covid 19 is more of a motivating factor in not working than being required to wear a mask as part of the job is.
I would agree with that.
Stores in my area have also cut their hours due to staffing shortages.
Education is a whole different kettle of fish when it comes to the issues of staffing and pay.
Mom and life long friends were teachers.
Professional politicians want to blame teachers for what's wrong with education.
Why don't they ask teachers what's wrong. But oh, know they don't want to do that.
I don't wonder at all why there are teacher shortages.
I wonder why anyone in their right mind would want to be a teacher these days.
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We're a school. We can only pay as much as the voters authorize the budget to handle. The business model is literally voted on by the public. I mean, Jesus Christ what do they want us to do? We get complaints about not offering services we used to but if we put tax increases on the ballot they'll vote us down. At some point I guess the public doesn't want the school?
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In fairness to you, the public education system is hanging on by a thread now. Down here in Texas, to say that school teacher salaries have not kept pace with COL would be an understatement. Now factor in the student loans that most are saddled with, and it's now on the verge of becoming financial suicide to even contemplate a career in education. You would never dream of getting rich as a teacher, but now you can really destroy yourself financially. Dont be surprised if we see a massive shortage of teachers even after COVID goes away as the older teachers retire and the young have been warned off and stay away.
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Stores in my area have also cut their hours due to staffing shortages.
Education is a whole different kettle of fish when it comes to the issues of staffing and pay.
Mom and life long friends were teachers.
Professional politicians want to blame teachers for what's wrong with education.
Why don't they ask teachers what's wrong. But oh, know they don't want to do that.
I don't wonder at all why there are teacher shortages.
I wonder why anyone in their right mind would want to be a teacher these days.
They need to pay more... that is one way to help a lot.
It needs to be a big raise, BIG. 20% or higher. Businesses are having to do this - at my wife's work they were having atrocious turnover and increasingly no replacements. They had to raise the entire staff 15%, and acutely raise valued staff they could not afford to lose anywhere from 18-30%. It was a hard pill to swallow that their leadership did not want to do. But they did it.
It did not help the recruitment THAT much... they are still having trouble garnering applicants. However, it helped stop the bleeding from resignations. Turnover decreased and existing employees stayed in their jobs whereas they would have quit otherwise.
With education, though, they also need not only pay but much more respect.
I'm not sure how true this is, at least in my area. The labor shortage has been clearly in evidence for years, with many local businesses running short-staffed; COVID just pushed the situation over a cliff.
Well, I worked in staffing for decades and that was very true in my area. COVID is what pushed the situation into a crisis.
I think fear of getting Covid 19 is more of a motivating factor in not working than being required to wear a mask as part of the job is.
I know in my company, the locations without mask mandates have better in person attendance than locations with mandates. In every case, there is the opportunity to work from home so it's a personal choice.
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