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Old 03-24-2022, 09:10 AM
 
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Our K-12 education system. That is what changed. They are pushed through the system and handed a degree cause nobody likes to see failure anymore.
I agree but the real responsibility lies with the parents. Under performing kids in school is a direct result of parenting wanting to be friends to their kids instead preparing them to be self sufficient members in society.

Until parents demand their kids have a better life then theirs we are going to be burden with 10's of million hamburger flippers. Parents need and should be demanding their children learn the basic rules to survive in our society which includes reading, writing and arithmetic. It not the schools or teachers job to teach kids want to learn - its the parents.

You cant believe when i was hiring people how many could not fill out a application, how many had hand writing so bad you couldn't read it anyhow many could not come close to passing simple math questions.

America better wake the hell up and stop this woke crap and political correctness bs and speak to the real issue of parents being parents and preparing our children to compete in the market place.
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Old 03-24-2022, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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where i am I am seeing the going rate for lower-skilled labor seems to be around $18-19/hr. I keep getting notifications from Linkedin for jobs about $18-19/hr. nothing has come to me that would make me want to leave my current $18.50/hr job (though I make closer to $21/hr with mileage compensation).

what I really want and what would make me really thinkg about moving on from my job is:
4-day work weeks
401k
Health coverage
more than $21/hr.

and I dont think any job out there for a non-skilled person such as myself is out there with those things. I have a bachelor's degree in lib arts but I don't think that brings much to any table.
You could get a custodian job where I work starting at $19.50 with a state pension and health insurance. We would start you *today.* Have to be 5 days a week though but you might be able to flex those hours around.

We have ZERO takers right now, NONE.

You'd move up to $21 soon enough probably next year. Your degree would be a good factor to move you up into higher paid staff jobs after a couple years.
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Old 03-24-2022, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Central CT, sometimes FL and NH.
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I understand that in some states people who were terminated for refusing to get vaccinated are now being allowed to collect unemployment (with back pay). There are also a number of lawsuits being brought against employers for adopting policies that created a vaccine requirement on the basis of discrimination against the unvaccinated. This is likely a part of the labor shortage as many of these workers that were dismissed happened right after the extended unemployment and supplemental unemployment payments ended. There are also a group of people refusing to return to work based on health concerns related to company vaccine policy (or lack of) claiming unemployment based on health-related work concerns.
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Old 03-24-2022, 03:21 PM
 
Location: U.S.A., Earth
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Well things are about to get a lot worse with gas prices so high, some folk can’t even afford to go to work.
When it cost more than $100. To fill your tank on an economy car and that lasts only a few days driving as minimally as possible.And you have to find work where it is , not where you live. The housing prices drive people out of areas their work exists. It’s that or living in your car again.
Even a decade ago, I'd hear from people who turned down jobs because their employer wanted them to $200 a month to be able to park in a parking garage. Or, toll roads and other costs end up killing enough of their net pay.
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Old 03-24-2022, 11:48 PM
 
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Again, Labor Shortage = Fake News.
There is a desperate labor shortage, right? Companies have to compete for workers, they say. What a JOKE and FAKE NEWS.

"A new Pew Research Center survey finds that low pay, a lack of opportunities for advancement are the top reasons why Americans quit their jobs last year."
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...-disrespected/

https://www.fatherly.com/news/minimu...um=ownedsocial

Good Luck!
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Old 03-25-2022, 04:48 AM
 
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It's hard to find quality people at all levels right now. I've worked for the same company for 17 years now, and consequently know a lot of long term employees (10-20 years and up). A positive side effect is that suddenly the company is valuing long term talent much more than before. Whereas it was previously difficult to get a promotion because they would throw money at external candidates (especially those with degrees), many quality people I know are getting to move up internally in the last 6 months, including myself.


An executive at our recent all hands also actually said they wanted to develop talent in house and didn't care about credentials. Pretty refreshing.
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Old 03-25-2022, 05:06 AM
 
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That's mostly and apples to cornbread argument. US wait times to see doctors can be fairly long. The much more critical wait times between diagnosis and treatment are the socialized medicine pain points. My mother went from Hodgkins Disease diagnosis/staging studies to treatment in a couple of days. In England a 60 day wait is within limits.

Anyway the bit you posted as about hearing from a PCP within a day. That's not a very helpful stat.
I think it is a helpful stat. It is more like a corn to cornbread argument. You aren’t going to get a referral for the oncologist out of thin air. You need to be able to get into a PCP in the first place to have them refer you to someone who can figure out you have Hodgkin’s disease. Yes, there is urgent care, but that is far beyond the scope of providers you find there. I know people who have moved to fairly large cities and have been told they had a 3-4 month wait to get in with their PCP. I have been told I need to wait 2 months to get in with a PCP when I have an acute issue. Certainly after that, getting in with specialists can also take months. I recently started seeing a neurologist and it took me several months to get an appointment there. I live in an area where there are lots of providers, so it is relatively easy here compared to other places.
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Old 03-25-2022, 10:50 AM
 
Location: PNW
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where i am I am seeing the going rate for lower-skilled labor seems to be around $18-19/hr. I keep getting notifications from Linkedin for jobs about $18-19/hr. nothing has come to me that would make me want to leave my current $18.50/hr job (though I make closer to $21/hr with mileage compensation).

what I really want and what would make me really thinkg about moving on from my job is:
4-day work weeks
401k
Health coverage
more than $21/hr.

and I dont think any job out there for a non-skilled person such as myself is out there with those things. I have a bachelor's degree in lib arts but I don't think that brings much to any table.

Develop your talents
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Old 03-26-2022, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Central CT, sometimes FL and NH.
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Originally Posted by 0ldsm0bile View Post
where i am I am seeing the going rate for lower-skilled labor seems to be around $18-19/hr. I keep getting notifications from Linkedin for jobs about $18-19/hr. nothing has come to me that would make me want to leave my current $18.50/hr job (though I make closer to $21/hr with mileage compensation).

what I really want and what would make me really thinkg about moving on from my job is:
4-day work weeks
401k
Health coverage
more than $21/hr.

and I dont think any job out there for a non-skilled person such as myself is out there with those things. I have a bachelor's degree in lib arts but I don't think that brings much to any table.
I don't know your age but there are numerous exciting opportunities right now to build a career path, especially for younger people just starting out. Your liberal arts degree is a positive but needs to be paired with specific knowledge, skills and experience to leverage your credentials. I met with a contractor the other day to discuss installing EV charging stations in a residential complex with inside and outside parking. This contractor's company is looking for more people as the need for charging stations is obviously in high demand and will be for at least the next decade. The contractor I met with is in such high demand they are traveling throughout the US and Canada to meet with interested parties. What skills does one need for that job? Having knowledge of state and federal incentives, knowing the products, including the competitions, and understanding EV demand, as well as environmental and climate concerns. Other key attributes are being sociable and able to coordinate with electrical contractors and other trades people to evaluate site-specific requirements and options for the client. Fields such as property management, high-rise maintenance, and solar power systems are also in great need of workers and have excellent pay opportunities. There are also numerous opportunities for people pursuing programs in manufacturing, supply chain management, surveying, welding, etc.

The goal of obtaining a college degree in certain fields of study isn't necessarily to prepare one for a specific job. A solid liberal arts program provides a young person with a well-rounded exposure to a variety of topics and complex situations to develop critical thinking skills. These skills can be applied to a variety of jobs and opens one up for learning valuable new skills. Recent data claims that over 41% of college graduates are working in fields that don't require a degree. Many are angry that the degree they obtained did not get them the higher-paying job they were told in high school that college graduates enjoy over those without degrees. Unfortunately, unless someone obtains a degree in a field such as engineering, chemistry, accounting, etc., a general degree alone is not the key to higher-level employment.
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Old 03-26-2022, 07:27 PM
 
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has to be unemployment checks. How else could you pay your bills?
Savings.

Income from investments.

Living with family that pays the bills.
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