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Public schools are now routinely underminding the values that many parents are trying teach their kids at home. Many aren't even preparing kids for the type of economy we have now. I don't even have kids yet, and I can see that happening. I have long belived in the public school system, because it has set the U.S. apart from so many other countries where education is just for those with the money to afford it. Education is the key to a better quality of life, and every American should have access to quality education. If public schools cannot provide that, then parents need to have other options. Its just that simple.
I think this thread should be merged with this thread.
And just to give you some background information, I spent all of grades K-12 in the public school system, and I'm about to enter a public university (so I don't have kids yet, but my experience is recent)
In any case, I don't know if it was mentioned, but it depends on the specific issue regarding the public schools. In some schools, the issue is that the child's physical safety is at stake (if the school has a lot of fights, gang activity, etc). It's very difficult to get the initial cycle started to attract parents with resources to that school. You'd probably have to have a sort of police state in the school for a few years, and then hopefully those parents would be willing to send their kids to that school.
In some schools, they may not really have a problem with violence, but you may have disruptive students (like in my middle & high schools) That's less of a problem because the types of parents who can afford to send their kids to private school usually have the resources to spend extra time with their child reviewing the material, or hire a tutor for some subjects.
And then in some schools, you may just have low test scores due to ESL students, or other factors. In that case, the solution could just be to have separate classes for intellectually gifted students, so that the slower students don't drag them down, and the teachers can focus on giving the slower students the help they need.
Unfortunately, it requires a lot of investment in terms of effort on the part of the administration, in the hope that it pays off in the future.
You are a bad person if you send your children to private school. Not bad like murderer bad—but bad like ruining-one-of-our-nation’s-most-essential-institutions-in-order-to-get-what’s-best-for-your-kid bad. So, pretty bad.
I am not an education policy wonk: I’m just judgmental. But it seems to me that if every single parent sent every single child to public school, public schools would improve. This would not happen immediately. It could take generations.
Public schools are now routinely underminding the values that many parents are trying teach their kids at home.
Indeed. One of the primary reasons our children are given the advantage and head start of a private school education.
Since the charter and establishment of the Dept of Education in 1979 and 80 respectively, standardized test scores in public education have declined or stagnated year over year.
Indeed. One of the primary reasons our children are given the advantage and head start of a private school education.
Since the charter and establishment of the Dept of Education in 1979 and 80 respectively, standardized test scores in public education have declined or stagnated year over year.
A prior Department of Education had been created in 1867, but it was soon demoted to an Office in 1868. Because it was not a Cabinet-level agency, it quickly became a minor bureau of the Department of the Interior. The bureau was transferred in 1939 to the Federal Security Agency, when it was renamed the Office of Education. The Federal Security Agency was upgraded to Cabinet-level status as the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare in 1953.
In 1979, President Carter advocated for creating a cabinet-level Department of Education. The Department of Education Organization Act split the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare into the Department of Education and the Department of Health and Human Services.
The Department of Education Organization Act was signed into law by President Jimmy Carter on October 17, 1979. It began operating on May 4, 1980.
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There are no two identical public schools and the same can be said with private schools.
The dangers of the school debates in the US is that every private school is different and every public school is different. Are you comparing a large, high achieving public magnet school in an affluent suburb with a smaller Catholic/religious private high school in a working class neighborhood? Or a country club private school with a reputation for sending many students to the Ivies to a run of mill public high school in a middle class suburb?
The possible comparisons go on and on.
Absolutely. I think one of the issues we have with education is that our country is so diverse in population, socioeconomic status, languages spoken, and population density that we cannot compare accurately with other countries.
Ever drive through Northern Arizona or Wyoming? Think about their school offerings vs. a high density area like NYC.
If you can't afford to raise your kids properly(without pointing gov't guns at taxpayers to force them to help you) then you shouldn't be having kids. It's that simple.
So education has been a cabinet level issue since 1953, and a stand alone cabinet issue since 1980. There has been federal government involvement in education since 1867.
So education has been a cabinet level issue since 1953, and a stand alone cabinet issue since 1980. There has been federal government involvement in education since 1867.
Sorta.
"Department of Health, Education, and Welfare" established in 1953 as abinet-level. Its focus, charter and mission covered much more than just education.
Carter signed into law a "Department of Education," with a its own charter, as a dedicated Cabinet-level agency in 1979. It became operational in 1980.
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