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It also requires understanding the technology, and it takes fewer workers to get the job done. Don't be ridiculous! The reason coal mining won't come back in a big way even if every environmental law is revoked is d/t technology. They don't need 10 year old boys in the mines chopping coal with a pick any more.
But there was no space odyssey in 2001! And where are our jetpacks?
It is called over-optimism.
The Casini Mission was passing Jupiter in Dec 2000 headed for Saturn. To boldly go where only Voyager had gone before. Never send a man to do a robots job.
It also requires understanding the technology, and it takes fewer workers to get the job done. Don't be ridiculous! The reason coal mining won't come back in a big way even if every environmental law is revoked is d/t technology. They don't need 10 year old boys in the mines chopping coal with a pick any more.
I was not talking about coal mining. I was talking about the service economy. There are plenty of jobs you can do without a post-secondary degree. I don't even get why data entry, just to give one example, would require a high school diploma. I could put numbers into a computer all day long when I was in 7th grade. Why should it be illegal?
In 1900 you could hire a 13-year-old to pains-takingly write it out by hand and put it into a book, but in 2000 you could not hire a 13-year-old to put the info into a computer. Why? Did the technology make the task more difficult, or did it make it easier?
Could it be the nature of work has changed in 100 years? Nah! Not a chance!
Not only that, but this nation worked hard to get away from child labor in the fields, and sweat shops, and coal mines. I don't think that child labor is good from almost any aspect. Children will take the jobs of adults in lower level jobs, and we learned over our first couple hundred years that that was not desirable.
So while ncole is advocating for child labor, I will advocate against it. Starting working in a grocery store at age 16 was early enough for me.
. Starting working in a grocery store at age 16 was early enough for me.
ROFL
My father owned a grocery store. I started at 12 on weekends. Stacking Campbell's Soup cans was so much fun. At least now we could listen to MP3 players with music or audiobooks. I didn't even have a Walkman.
I was not talking about coal mining. I was talking about the service economy. There are plenty of jobs you can do without a post-secondary degree. I don't even get why data entry, just to give one example, would require a high school diploma. I could put numbers into a computer all day long when I was in 7th grade. Why should it be illegal?
In 1900 you could hire a 13-year-old to pains-takingly write it out by hand and put it into a book, but in 2000 you could not hire a 13-year-old to put the info into a computer. Why? Did the technology make the task more difficult, or did it make it easier?
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Originally Posted by phetaroi
Not only that, but this nation worked hard to get away from child labor in the fields, and sweat shops, and coal mines. I don't think that child labor is good from almost any aspect. Children will take the jobs of adults in lower level jobs, and we learned over our first couple hundred years that that was not desirable.
So while ncole is advocating for child labor, I will advocate against it. Starting working in a grocery store at age 16 was early enough for me.
Agree with you, phetaroi. My g*d, ncole, you're advocating child labor and dropping out of high school! Got any more good ideas?
Not only that, but this nation worked hard to get away from child labor in the fields, and sweat shops, and coal mines. I don't think that child labor is good from almost any aspect. Children will take the jobs of adults in lower level jobs, and we learned over our first couple hundred years that that was not desirable.
So while ncole is advocating for child labor, I will advocate against it. Starting working in a grocery store at age 16 was early enough for me.
Why not let people start working when they, as an individual, are ready, but with safeguards in place to keep sweatshops from returning? Do you really think a grocery store is a sweatshop?
Agree with you, phetaroi. My g*d, ncole, you're advocating child labor and dropping out of high school! Got any more good ideas?
No, I am not. What I am saying is that if someone could work while still in school, then it scarcely seems reasonable to argue that school cannot be shortened. I am not advocating dropping out of high school under the *current* system (which is set up so that doing so closes lots of doors).
Seriously, if I advocated dropping out, I would have done so myself.
Incidentally, I worked, illegally, at the age of 13 in multiple home-based business ventures, some not of my parents' making. Please prove to me that I was "harmed".
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