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Old 09-19-2018, 09:18 PM
 
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Are you in Arizona?

ETA: Ok. I didn't see your reply to the previous post when I just posted.
Yes, and California too for the moment, and they have gone on strike in both this past year demanding higher pay by way of raising taxes.

 
Old 09-19-2018, 09:20 PM
 
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As a retired educator, I can't say. But when I was still working I was paying something like $300/month for health insurance.
As a business owner I pay roughly $4k per month for myself and 2 employees.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I agree. People seem to lump all teachers into the "free healthcare" category. I don't know the stats, but I imagine most don't get free healthcare. I'm in your former system and healthcare is $371/mo for a family of three. We get a bit of a break from the $465/mo since we are a two-employee family. The same plan would cost $1,449/mo in retirement, but that's for a family. For the two of us it would be $1,139/mo. That's not a complaint on my part, just factual information that shows it is definitely not "free".

As far as the $90k salaries people are throwing out there, I'll go out on a limb and say that is not a common number across the country.
There are so many variations, but as a Medicare retiree I think I am paying $337 per month as a single.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
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As a business owner I pay roughly $4k per month for myself and 2 employees.
What is your point in this response? The previous posts weren't made as complaints but rather to show that many teachers are not getting free healthcare.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 09:33 PM
 
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As far as the $90k salaries people are throwing out there, I'll go out on a limb and say that is not a common number across the country.
$90k would be top of salary schedule. Think of all the teachers who enter the profession and leave, or change districts, or all the time they spend climbing the salary schedule.

Average will be less.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
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$90k would be top of salary schedule. Think of all the teachers who enter the profession and leave, or change districts, or all the time they spend climbing the salary schedule.

Average will be less.
I understood. Even as a top of the salary schedule I can't imagine it is a very common salary. I'm in Northern VA which is one of the most expensive places in the country. The county regularly ranks as one of the wealthiest and ~ $90k is a mark that is at the top, or towards the top of our scales.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 10:01 PM
 
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Many teachers burn out and quit after a few years. )
They shouldn't even have to let it get that far. Simply put, if you hate your job, find another line of work.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 10:08 PM
 
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Just to clarify, not all teachers get free healthcare. I was in one of the eleven largest school systems in the nation, and I never got free health insurance. I didn't have to pay for it all myself, but I paid a good chunk of change every month, and in retirement still do.
Ok, let me be more specific. For one I'm really only referring to Public schools, not private or fake privates known as Charters.
Not all public school teachers get free Healthcare, but many do. Even if its free for only yourself. In LA's school district which is the 2nd biggest in the whole country, you can insure every single child and spouse, even if that's composed of like 7 people, all for free. Not to mention if you put in enough years, the spouse gets free lifetime healthcare. Hell of a deal. And really crazy when hald of these teachers don't even care about their own health judging by what they eat. But I digress

In other LA county districts, even it's not FREE, I know teachers that still pay an extremely reduced rate of $75 per person. But again, all of this is put on the table before you get hired as its public knowledge and can be found with a simple internet search.

And as I said, there's certainly gripes about the job to be had, but other professions have their issues too. A big problem with the teaching profession in all honesty is that many of the teaching programs aren't hard enough to knock bad candidates out and it takes a while to get exposed.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 11:15 PM
 
Location: AZ
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There is not enough money in the US Treasury to entice me into a classroom at any grade level of American children.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 11:38 PM
 
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Why go in to a profession and then complain/whine (maybe strike) about the pay/benefits?
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