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Old 07-21-2022, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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It looks like an eagle
That's because it is an eagle. But it's no fun unless somebody's offended by it.
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Old 07-21-2022, 04:48 PM
 
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The thing is that the swastika was an important symbol long before the Nazis used it.

https://www.artofliving.org/in-en/cu...wastika-symbol

Unfortunately, modern day events associate the inverted swastika with Hitler, and his tyranny against the Jews. Nevertheless, thousands of people from different faiths around the world draw swastika sign with devotion and faith. What is the convoluted history of this auspicious sign?

‘Let good prevail’
Swastika is a Sanskrit word, which comes from ‘Su’ + ‘Asti’. Su is good and asti means to prevail.

Its source and the imagery can be traced back to the 5000-year-old Indus Valley, Sindhu-Sarasvati civilization.

The swastika symbol looks like four arms emerging from a center and swirling in a particular direction. It resembles a rotating disc.

Different civilizations have attributed varied reasons for its four arms depiction . Some have connected them with four primordial elements namely earth, water, fire, air. Some associate its four arms with the four directions, some with the four Vedas, while some with the four seasons.
We all know that.
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Old 07-21-2022, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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It's almost as if people are LOOKING for things to be offended by these days.
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Old 07-22-2022, 03:48 AM
 
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Someone pointed out that the yahoo article didn't include the symbol and posted it (thanks). I saw it and flashed back to when our old but relatively new hitler posted a picture of a sheriff's badge that looked like the Star of David and that time, it had something to do with the fascist theme of "Law and Justice". It did and the criminals knew it looked like the Star. Garbage like this is common with fascism as is the denials that ultimately followed. We're moving to an authoritarian dictatorship that Orban in Hungary has established. Patterns are the same - enrage people, put them all down (Judge Curiel was an early attack as were immigrants and the gay community and women and that's just the start) and establish a white-christian nationalist dictatorship. Go read about Poland, Hungary and other democratic countries under attack.

There's no denying what's happening (and there's no mistaking the symbol or what a swastika look like and the authoritarians are all denying that's apparently not true, too). It's all done on purpose.
Yet, the US approves it in some special countries ?
https://reportingradicalism.org/en/h...-of-the-nation

For those who want to see the logo - if you just search Marietta GA school logo - it pops up in news and the images
You may add ”controversy” to your search to see the logo in question
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Old 07-22-2022, 06:26 AM
 
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The thing is that the swastika was an important symbol long before the Nazis used it.

https://www.artofliving.org/in-en/cu...wastika-symbol

Unfortunately, modern day events associate the inverted swastika with Hitler, and his tyranny against the Jews. Nevertheless, thousands of people from different faiths around the world draw swastika sign with devotion and faith. What is the convoluted history of this auspicious sign?

‘Let good prevail’
Swastika is a Sanskrit word, which comes from ‘Su’ + ‘Asti’. Su is good and asti means to prevail.

Its source and the imagery can be traced back to the 5000-year-old Indus Valley, Sindhu-Sarasvati civilization.

The swastika symbol looks like four arms emerging from a center and swirling in a particular direction. It resembles a rotating disc.

Different civilizations have attributed varied reasons for its four arms depiction . Some have connected them with four primordial elements namely earth, water, fire, air. Some associate its four arms with the four directions, some with the four Vedas, while some with the four seasons.
Double answer - sorry.......
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Old 07-22-2022, 08:26 AM
 
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Folks. It's not the eagle. It's the appearance of the symbol below it. I don't think anyone was trying to make a nazi symbol. They just were being too creative. They were so focused on their work they didn't see the similarity.
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Old 07-22-2022, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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They just were being too creative. They were so focused on their work they didn't see the similarity.
Most young designers born after 1980 wouldn't, especially if as they say, they were working off a U.S. military insignia.

Back in the 90's the guy in charge of the alarm codes at work made the 4-digit code "0845" and the password "mushroom". I told him it was racist, and he smirked, but ultimately he changed it (both of our fathers had been stationed on Tinian in August 1945). How many people born after a certain date would even get it?
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Old 07-22-2022, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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Both Nazi and U.S. iconography were heavily inspired by ancient Roman iconography. The Founding Fathers were heavily inspired by the principles of the Roman Republic. The German Reich traced its lineage back to the Holy Roman Empire which in turn considered itself the rightful successor of the Roman Empire.



The standards carried by Roman legions featured a stern, martial-looking eagle on top. This eagle over time became known as the main symbol of Rome. It symbolizes immense power, courage and boldness, which are of course characteristics people appreciated throughout history.


There's no shortage of nations which used this Roman Eagle iconography for their own purposes over time. And the image of the eagle resting with wings spread and its claws sunk into something below in particular has been very popular. In fact, if you look at the U.S. Marine Corps' emblem..it's a Roman style eagle sitting on top of the world, its claws in the Arctic.



Any designer trying to work off of that kind of U.S. imagery is walking a very thin line because it's really not much of a leap to get to Third Reich style images. And of course this style of image is everywhere here in the D.C. area, where for obvious reasons you see tons of U.S. government/military imagery and is also kind of a local symbol (just look at some of the D.C. pro team imagery).



Here's the logo of a local soccer league, and it's quite common to see this as a bumper sticker on cars:






That's just one example. No-one complains because people in this area get what it relates to, and you don't have to explain further, but in another city you might get the same complaints this school got.
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Old 07-22-2022, 09:52 AM
 
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