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Old 06-10-2010, 04:34 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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How are GOP candidates saying they will achieve a smaller federal government if elected? Obama is spending and hiring feds right now and it isn't just temp Census workers. I'm wondering, if elected, are Republican candidates saying they will eliminate Departments? Eliminate Agencies within Departments? Let people go who were hired in the last so many years? Eliminate executives? Eliminate programs? Eliminate positions, pemanently? Have a long term hiring freeze and not replace workers who leave, just let them go by attrition? Give incentives to people to retire and not replace them?

I'm sick of political candidates just mouthing what we want to hear. I'd like to hear how GOP candidates running for the Senate, House and eventually for President plan to make the federal government smaller so we can hold their feet to the fire and make sure they follow through after we elect them. So, I'm asking in the elections forum: Which GOP candidates are saying they are for a smaller government and how are they proposing it be achieved? And will some TV/radio hosts/newspaper reporters please ask them?
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Old 06-10-2010, 04:56 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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The simplest thing would be for them, if elected, not to go to Wash. It's not like they do anything there anyway. How unfun would that be?

Last edited by florida.bob; 06-10-2010 at 05:12 AM..
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Old 06-10-2010, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Maybe the RW's will go to Washington and fire all the liberals so they can populate the federal government with their corporate friends. Oh, wait a minute, they already did this. Just look at the oil spill for confirmation.
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I just this minute read Karl Rove's column in the Wall Street Journal that says under Obama, the federal government has grown by 25% in just over a year. Unless Mr Rove is also counting temporary Census workers like the President's administration does for job creation, this is how the Obama administration reduces the spending of the federal government?

I'd say the GOP candidate can start with the hires making up that 25%.

Here's the Rove mention about 9 paragraphs down:

Karl Rove: Obama and the Trouble With Voting 'Present' - WSJ.com
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Old 06-10-2010, 11:24 AM
 
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Reduce government job wages and benefits.
Shut down the Federal Reserve.
Shut down the IRS.
Repeal universal healthcare.
Shut down or sell Amtrack.

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Old 06-11-2010, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Reduce government job wages and benefits.
Shut down the Federal Reserve.
Shut down the IRS.
Repeal universal healthcare.
Shut down or sell Amtrack.
The federal government will not shut down the agency (IRS) that brings in revenue. Even if you eliminate the income tax (), you need an agency to process tax returns and payments, collect money and ensure compliance for whatever tax system replaces the income tax. There are plenty of other taxes, that don't involve indivduals, too.
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:32 PM
 
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The federal government will not shut down the agency (IRS) that brings in revenue. Even if you eliminate the income tax (), you need an agency to process tax returns and payments, collect money and ensure compliance for whatever tax system replaces the income tax. There are plenty of other taxes, that don't involve indivduals, too.
The size of the IRS could sure be reduced using The Fair Tax and more revenue would be collected.

Barack wants to hire 15,000 more IRS employees just to monitor Obamacare. This country is going in the wrong direction under the Dems.
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Old 06-11-2010, 03:34 PM
 
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Government should be run more like a business
without the bail outs

Americas dependence on the government and having
the silly notion that they (The Government) knows whats best
for the American people is why were in this mess now

Take a look here it changes often so check back, once
you read how silly some of this stuff is and how OUR
TAX DOLLARS are being wasted some

Eric Cantor || Republican Whip || YouCut (http://republicanwhip.house.gov/YouCut/ - broken link)

1. Cut spending
2. Revamp ALL entitlement programs

This would be a fantastic start
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Old 06-11-2010, 03:41 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Mouser View Post
Government should be run more like a business
without the bail outs

Americas dependence on the government and having
the silly notion that they (The Government) knows whats best
for the American people is why were in this mess now

Take a look here it changes often so check back, once
you read how silly some of this stuff is and how OUR
TAX DOLLARS are being wasted some

Eric Cantor || Republican Whip || YouCut (http://republicanwhip.house.gov/YouCut/ - broken link)

1. Cut spending
2. Revamp ALL entitlement programs

This would be a fantastic start
They've been saying this for years. They could've started along time ago. What's up with that?
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The size of the IRS could sure be reduced using The Fair Tax and more revenue would be collected.

Barack wants to hire 15,000 more IRS employees just to monitor Obamacare. This country is going in the wrong direction under the Dems.
I don't think the IRS could be reduced for some kind of sales tax. The IRS has an Wage and Investment Division, a Small Business/Self-Employed Division, a Large and Mid-Sized Business Division and a Tax Exempt and Government Entities Division. If the Income Tax were eliminated, not only would the other three divisions still exist but the budget from Wage and Investment for forms processing, payments processing, data capture, auditing and collection activity would probably just be shifted to the two Business divisions to cover the increase in activity there as a result of passing the IRS tax burden of filing and paying to them (for eliminating an income tax and having some kind of sales tax).

Don't get me started on IRS and Obamacare. There isn't a screaming emoticon to cover my feelings about that one.
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