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I think it's more depressing than anything that there are so many willfully ignorant people here. Certainly explains why there is so much liberal/Obama hatred on this board. When people turn their nose down at education, ridiculing people smarter and more in touch with reality then they are is their last resort.
Actually you are wrong again. The 1st amendment says the federal government cant establish a religion, it says nothing about taking on religious values, or that states cant establish one. There were numerous state owned and operated churches when the Constitution was written
Numerous USSC cases have established that the government, whether state or federal, cannot use public money in public schools in support of teaching religion, no matter what religion that is. Creationism is religion.
You see? That is your view because you cannot believe in creation. If creation is true, which I believe it is, then evolution can't work for me. So, the Science class is teaching a lie.
Do you see how that can go both ways?
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That you cannot accept something that actually has physical evidence over something that you must believe only on faith actually says far more about you than it does evolution.
There are lots of scientists that use the education found to support evolution, who use this knowledge to strengthen their belief in creationism.
These scientists would ask how evolution was possible without a "creator" to make it all happen.
Just because one happened, it doesnt mean the other one also didnt. Its not an either/or scenario
No its not. There is lots of evidence to support evolution, but NONE to make it a FACT
I'm banging my head here trying to figure out where most of these people went to school and how on gods earth they graduated.
How on earth did YOU graduate? You don't appear to even know what evolution is.
Have you even bothered to read the many posts with explanations of what a Scientific Theory is? It's an explanation of the demonstrable facts and evidence.
For the umpteenth time, any scientist will tell you:
Evolution is fact.
The Theory of Evolution is an explanation of the fact of evolution.
I can't believe you continue to argue that Evolution is not theory. Amazing the things they DIDN'T teach in school.
Evolution is a SCIENTIFIC theory and when I went to school, the difference between scientific theory and common theory was carefully explained. As a teacher, I carefully explained the difference to my students. Apparently, some on this forum are the victims of an inferior education.
IT IS NOT. Does someone need to inform you that there are thousands of schools all across this country teaching religious values? The line gets crossed when the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT mandates a certain religion over any other religions.
The Constitution is a limit on the federal government ESTABLISHING a religion, not teaching about it
You do realize that the Constitution and federal law trump state law, right? State laws are not immune to having to follow federal guidelines based ON THE CONSTITUTION. Where do you get this crap?
Are we talking about Darwin's theory of evolution? If so, I believe his theory is about evolving species over time, not creating life out of basic elements. I'd say that was a "gap". But even so, his theory takes up a chapter in a book, and that's it.
Teaching religious values is not promoting religion
Though shall not kill, didnt they teach you that in school?
Not committing murder does not have to be based on religion. The more you post, the less honest the whole "agnostic" thing sounds given your more than subtle support for all things religious.
Numerous USSC cases have established that the government, whether state or federal, cannot use public money in public schools in support of teaching religion, no matter what religion that is. Creationism is religion.
They indeed can and do teach the bible in school, provided it taught in a historical or literacy context.
I never understood why Evolution and Creationism couldn't coincide instead of being opposed to each other.
I'm of the opinion that we did indeed evolve from the sea and then onto the land, as the biologists believe, but that this process was guided by the hand of God, as the Theologians believe.
I think they call this notion "Intelligent Design."
Makes sense to me.
Actually, it's called Theistic Evolution, not Intelligent Design. Most Christians in the world are Theistic Evolutionists.
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