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Old 01-25-2012, 05:22 AM
 
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I'm an independent who finds this remark offensive. You cannot paint millions of people with one brush. Please show one person who voted for Clinton who thinks his behavior was OK.

The Democratic voters I know were and still are mortified by his conduct. First, it was immoral. It caused so much lost opportunity and created years of havoc, and made them all look like fools.
Ooh please, these forums are full of hypocrits who run around excusing Clinton for lying under Oath about having an affir while claiming Newt isnt qualified for having an affair.
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:47 AM
 
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This is a perfect response to Obamas State of the Union address tonight

We have a crisis of work in this country and tonight President Obama proposed nothing in the way of policy changes that will get us to robust job creation and dramatic economic growth.

Instead, the president described his conviction that his big government is built to last and should be paid for with higher taxes.

But bigger government and higher taxes will not lead to jobs and growth. Bigger government and higher taxes will instead lead to more people on food stamps, a situation which the President and his party defend as a fair outcome.

Newt Gingrich Response to State of the Union | Newt Gingrich 2012 (http://www.newt.org/news/newt-gingrich-response-state-union - broken link)
The perfect response? Sure. This is the substance he put forward:

"To create jobs and growth in this country, we must start with dramatic tax reform that lowers taxes and maximizes capital investment and job creation. We must return to a dollar as good as gold whose purchasing power is the same in thirty years as it is today. We must dramatically expand American energy production. We must have smarter regulation at the same time we abolish destructive and costly regulatory systems beginning with Obamacare,Dodd-Franks, and Sarbanes-Oxley. And finally, unlike the current administration, we must have faith in job creators. "

He hasn't put forward a vetted tax proposal. He's concerned with deficits, but wants to cut taxes. How's he going to pay for that?

How exactly does he plan to change the value of the dollar? No details.

Expand American energy production? By that does he mean spending more giving money to oil companies? There's not much holding back oil companies in the US.

Get rid of SOx? Sure. That law that Bush and House/Senate Republicans put in to stop recessions like the one caused by Enron? That makes a lot of sense.

I'd call the response far from perfect. I'd call it vague, empty and with no real proven details.
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:53 AM
 
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The President was spectacular in his performance and speech tonight.
Oscar nominations are closed.

Visions and 'plans' are great. Implementation and results are all that matter.
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Old 01-25-2012, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Florida
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This is a perfect response to Obamas State of the Union address tonight

We have a crisis of work in this country and tonight President Obama proposed nothing in the way of policy changes that will get us to robust job creation and dramatic economic growth.

Instead, the president described his conviction that his big government is built to last and should be paid for with higher taxes.

But bigger government and higher taxes will not lead to jobs and growth. Bigger government and higher taxes will instead lead to more people on food stamps, a situation which the President and his party defend as a fair outcome.

Newt Gingrich Response to State of the Union | Newt Gingrich 2012 (http://www.newt.org/news/newt-gingrich-response-state-union - broken link)
Poor Newt failed to comprehend the speech. I caught the job creating part since it was right there in the begining, and it was not hard to understand at all: encourage companies to bring outsourced jobs back, and expand domestic gas and other energy industries.
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Indiana
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This is a perfect response to Obamas State of the Union address tonight

We have a crisis of work in this country and tonight President Obama proposed nothing in the way of policy changes that will get us to robust job creation and dramatic economic growth.

Instead, the president described his conviction that his big government is built to last and should be paid for with higher taxes.

But bigger government and higher taxes will not lead to jobs and growth. Bigger government and higher taxes will instead lead to more people on food stamps, a situation which the President and his party defend as a fair outcome.

Newt Gingrich Response to State of the Union | Newt Gingrich 2012 (http://www.newt.org/news/newt-gingrich-response-state-union - broken link)
president Obama is creating a wefare state no doubt! newt is right a paycheck vs a wefare check people have to decide what is best for them!!
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:15 AM
 
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This is a perfect response to Obamas State of the Union address tonight

We have a crisis of work in this country and tonight President Obama proposed nothing in the way of policy changes that will get us to robust job creation and dramatic economic growth.

Instead, the president described his conviction that his big government is built to last and should be paid for with higher taxes.

But bigger government and higher taxes will not lead to jobs and growth. Bigger government and higher taxes will instead lead to more people on food stamps, a situation which the President and his party defend as a fair outcome.

Newt Gingrich Response to State of the Union | Newt Gingrich 2012 (http://www.newt.org/news/newt-gingrich-response-state-union - broken link)
Newt's response was short, to the point, and spot on!!
They just want to take money from Joe the Plumber – the small business people who makes over 90 per cent of the new jobs -- and redistribute it to the government bureaucracy and their political friends and allies.
Exactly. The purpose and function of raising taxes is not about taking from Peter to pay Paul, it's about taking money from Peter and Paul to give to government.
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:38 AM
 
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The President was spectacular in his performance and speech tonight. Newt can't imagine to hold a candle to how he handled himself.
It was just a well practiced, well rehearsed speech. Don't judge the man by his empty rhetoric, judge the man by his performance these past three years, and you will see it has been disastrous. Everything measurable has been made worse since he started implementing his policy and agenda. For starters, long-term joblessness is unprecedented, over 4 million people have been out of work for over a year, 46 million people, the highest recorded in history, are on Food Stamps in the US, all the while Obama has been spending almost $6 trillion more in debt. This president has been a spectacular failure.
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:39 AM
 
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president Obama is creating a wefare state no doubt! newt is right a paycheck vs a wefare check people have to decide what is best for them!!
Yeah, paychecks for kids cleaning the school as opposed to an adult supporting a family...you know, so 'poor' (read blacks) can learn the value of a paycheck and what it means to work hard and earn it
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:44 AM
 
Location: FL
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The President was spectacular in his performance and speech tonight. Newt can't imagine to hold a candle to how he handled himself.


It doesn't sound like Newt was listening very well, does it?
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It was just a well practiced, well rehearsed speech. Don't judge the man by his empty rhetoric, judge the man by his performance these past three years, and you will see it has been disastrous. Everything measurable has been made worse since he started implementing his policy and agenda. For starters, long-term joblessness is unprecedented, over 4 million people have been out of work for over a year, 46 million people, the highest recorded in history, are on Food Stamps in the US, all the while Obama has been spending almost $6 trillion more in debt. This president has been a spectacular failure.

Don't you just love the perfidious hypocrisy of the GOP? They obstruct everything the President wants to do, try not to allow him ANY victories, publicly state their highest priority is denying him a second term, and then have the gall to turn around and blame HIM because nothing's gotten done!

Amazin', ain't it? More amazing is that people really buy that hogwash.
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