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Old 05-10-2012, 08:34 PM
 
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If you look at at least one of the companies, you will see they have JPM people as well. I also wouldn't be surprised to see connections with them and the capital companies in some way.
I would like you to take note of the fact that these companies show up over and over in CAFRs and investment funds. Composite govt appears to own majority shares.
Which reminds me on how the Council on Foreign Relations has far, far too much influence on our government and it needs to stop. I like this guy's straight forward presentation.


Renaissance 2.0: Lesson 1 - Revisiting American History - Financial Empire - YouTube
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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If you look at at least one of the companies, you will see they have JPM people as well. I also wouldn't be surprised to see connections with them and the capital companies in some way.
I would like you to take note of the fact that these companies show up over and over in CAFRs and investment funds. Composite govt appears to own majority shares.
You linked to unelected.org for the story on what the Fed Reserve audit revealed (16 Trillion in Secret Bailouts). One of the companies was JP Morgan, getting 391 Billion!!!!!!
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:33 PM
 
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You linked to unelected.org for the story on what the Fed Reserve audit revealed (16 Trillion in Secret Bailouts). One of the companies was JP Morgan, getting 391 Billion!!!!!!
What is JP Morgan Chase?
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Old 05-12-2012, 01:35 PM
 
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(USA) 1/12 - TRAP DOORS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ELECTIONS AND WHAT TO DO A...
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SIX TRAP DOORS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ELECTION PROCESS

1. Removed safeguards for its same-day registration system.
2. Ignores the law on ballot-stuffing safeguards
3. Breaks the chain of custody
4. Conceals vote-counting from the public, in violation of Article 32 of its own Constitution
5. Removed candidate recount rights (2009)
6. Made it illegal for public citizens or members of the press to examine the ballots after the election is over (2003)

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Old 05-14-2012, 12:06 PM
 
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I thought a bit of review of what helped create the so-called "box". At least more recently. This is interesting.
This came about, with many changes. Including federal money and guidelines. Even an agency "independent" of the govt. This was supposedly, in part, a reaction to the 2000 elections.

Help America Vote Act
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To be eligible for federal funding, states must submit a plan describing how payments will be used and distributed, provisions for voter education and poll worker training, how to adopt voting system guidelines, performance measures to determine success (including goals, timetables, responsibilities, and criteria), administrative complaint procedures, and the committee who helped develop the state plan.
Each year the state receives federal funding they must submit a report to the EAC detailing a list of expenditures, the number of and types of voting equipment obtained with the funds, and an analysis and description of the activities funded.


Election Assistance Commission
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In 2003, Congress appropriated $1.5 billion for HAVA. The General Services Administration distributed most of the $650 million permitted under Title I of HAVA, but the remainder was earmarked for the EAC to disburse. The funds languished because the commissioners were not confirmed until 9 Dec. 2003; the law had required that they be in place by 26 Feb. 2003.
In its 2004 budget, Congress again allocated $1.5 billion to fund HAVA. By January 2004, the EAC had no permanent offices or budget, even though it was required to publish state election reform plans in the Federal Register before money for new voting equipment could be disbursed to the states. In 2011, United States Representative Gregg Harper introduced a bill to end the EAC and transfer some of its authority to the Federal Election Commission.



Federal Election Commission
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The Federal Election Commission (FEC) is an independent regulatory agency that was founded in 1975 by the United States Congress to regulate the campaign finance legislation in the United States. It was created in a provision of the 1975 amendment to the Federal Election Campaign Act. It describes its duties as "to disclose campaign finance information, to enforce the provisions of the law such as the limits and prohibitions on contributions, and to oversee the public funding of Presidential elections."

Membership

The Commission is made up of six members, who are appointed by the President of the United States and confirmed by the United States Senate.
Each member serves a six-year term, and two seats are subject to appointment every two years.[1] By law, no more than three Commissioners can be members of the same political party, and at least four votes are required for any official Commission action. As a consequence, the organization was regularly deadlocked with a 3 -3 vote and it took no action on potentially illegal campaigning despite recommendations of its own counsel. [2]
The Chairmanship of the Commission rotates among the members each year, with no member serving as Chairman more than once during his or her term.

Criticism

Critics of the FEC, including campaign finance reform supporters such as Common Cause and Democracy 21, have complained that it is a classic example of regulatory capture where it serves the interests of the ones it was intended to regulate.
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Old 05-15-2012, 06:56 PM
 
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(USA) - 10/11: AMERICANSELECT.ORG = TROJAN HORSE, EXCEPTIONALLY DAN...
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Americans Elect is using Internet voting, controlled entirely by whatever insider runs the server, to do their thing. (Why don't we stop throwing democracy in the toilet with pretend-democratic ideas that actually concentrate power and remove all ultimate control from the people?)

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Old 05-16-2012, 11:09 PM
 
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(NH) 4/11 - "THE INVISIBLE HAND" - A CASE STUDY IN STRIPPING AMERIC...
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Sumner learned that in 2003 the New Hampshire State Senate sneaked an extraneous amendment into an unrelated bill, HB 627, pertaining to defining domicile to comply with a Help America Vote requirement.

In other words, in a bill about residency requirements for voter registration, suddenly, magically, and out of thin air, an amendment appeared to exclude ballots from New Hampshire right to know law.
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Old 05-17-2012, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Keep in mind the 16 trillion in Bailouts from the Fed. This was posted almost a yr ago.

Goldman Sachs managing and owning US elections along w/ JPM and Citi people should be a concern.
So is how little we know about these companies and systems. We know this due to HR 1207 which despite overwhelming support didn't make it, but made enough noise to get something.

Audit of the Federal Reserve Reveals $16 Trillion in Secret Bailouts | Unelected


Citigroup: $2.5 trillion ($2,500,000,000,000)
Morgan Stanley: $2.04 trillion ($2,040,000,000,000)
Merrill Lynch: $1.949 trillion ($1,949,000,000,000)
Bank of America: $1.344 trillion ($1,344,000,000,000)
Barclays PLC (United Kingdom): $868 billion ($868,000,000,000)
Bear Sterns: $853 billion ($853,000,000,000)
Goldman Sachs: $814 billion ($814,000,000,000)
Royal Bank of Scotland (UK): $541 billion ($541,000,000,000)
JP Morgan Chase: $391 billion ($391,000,000,000)
Deutsche Bank (Germany): $354 billion ($354,000,000,000)
UBS (Switzerland): $287 billion ($287,000,000,000)
Credit Suisse (Switzerland): $262 billion ($262,000,000,000)
Lehman Brothers: $183 billion ($183,000,000,000)
Bank of Scotland (United Kingdom): $181 billion ($181,000,000,000)
BNP Paribas (France): $175 billion ($175,000,000,000)
yes.

but the sheep in America continue to defend big banks, even as they are being fleeced and pillaged.

Mission accomplished by the 1%.
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Old 05-17-2012, 02:46 PM
 
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yes.

but the sheep in America continue to defend big banks, even as they are being fleeced and pillaged.

Mission accomplished by the 1%.
In all honesty I see very few "real" people defend "big banks". However, I see plenty of the "1%" do it, in some form.
I believe in the "truism" of following the money. Not always easy to do, but it will be revealing.
Several major issues do need to be on a top priority list for the avg citizen, but I don't see that happening as it should. (This is one of them.)
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Old 05-20-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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CONFIRMED: 1000s OF VOTES UNCOUNTED
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Largest U.S. e-voting company admits op-scans mistallied NY paper ballots in 2010; Millions of 2012 votes in WI, FL, OH endangered on same failed systems...
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