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The Royal Marsden Hospital an NHS Cancer Hospital in London. The Royal Marsden and its academic partner, The Institute of Cancer Research, have discovered or developed more new anti-cancer drugs than the National Cancer Institute in the USA.
Sick of my Countries Health Service being dragged through the mud by Americans who don't know what there talking about. There are numerous excellent state hospitals inthe UK such as the Royal Marsden, we even invented CT Scans and MRI.
Now watch the recent episode of BBC Horizon above about London's Royal Marsden NHS Cancer Hospital before you start commenting on a system you have no idea about.
I have a friend who is a surgeon at the Royal Marsden........ it is just one of many excellant hospitals in the UK. My Mother was in the Royal Marsden when she developed Ovarian Cancer. The moaning that you hear from anyone in the UK about the British health system is that you will always get people who "whinge" but if the moved to the USA they would then realise how fantastic the NHS actually is.
I have asked my Aussie internet buddy about their health system and he says they have beautiful hospitals, on the outside, but that inside they aren't so hot. He talks about his wife having to wait and wait for surgery on her neck till they just went on their private health insurance and ended up paying about the same amount, out of pocket, if they could have got it done under the UHC. Also, he says very few nice things about the red headed witch who is the PM at least till the next election this fall. Yep, I think he tells the truth since he doesn't bad mouth all of it only the way it is applied.
Every system has people who like some aspects and hate others but i have family in Australia who have told me that the Australian health system is far far better now than the previous system by far.
In Australia, like in the UK, the Insurance companies have to compete with a huge Govt. funded health care system so the insurance companies have to keep their premiums way down or no one would use them... this means that if you want to get a private health insurance you can easily with low premiums and no co-pays. In the UK my wife insisted on private health insurance because she also had heard about how bad the NHS is and long waiting times... she had a platinum cover health plan with no co-pays and everything covered and if she decided to get treatment in a NHS Hospital te insurance company would pay approx $90.00 per day into her bank account for everyday she was in a NHS Ward.... not bad huh ... so we coud afford the NHS and a private insurance policy for less than we pay here just for limited time health cover with restrictions and big co-pays.
I won't ever have to wait very long for any kind of surgery under Obamacare since they will slip something into the pain pills they give me waiting for me to die. Oh yes the 15 person group that will be the real death panel will make sure that an old poop like me doesn't get any care more than they want. The damned thing will be nothing but a death panel for we old people. If you don't believe this read up on the IPAG proscribed in the law known as Obamacare.
The ONLY death panels in the USA are the CEO's and execs at the Health Insurance companies who do everything in their power to refuse treatment and not reinsure anyone with a previous condition.... this does NOT happen with a UHC.... there are NO death panels and the elderly are given the same treatments as any one else.... age is not a factor. God.... this Death Panel argument B/S is beyond belief nand to be honest sooo dumb.T he affordable health care act will hopefully be the prelude to a proper Govt. funded health care system in the USA and it is needed badly.
Maybe you don't really know some of the things that are in that law that have exactly nothing to do with health care. Maybe you need to study up on it a bit. It is not UHC or even close to it, speaking in reality.
Unfortunately because of the very same fear tactics as the ones you have been brainwashed with (death panels etc) President Obama had to settle for a watered down bill that has stuff in it forced on the President for votes otherwise he would not have got the bill passed. There are now many many American Citizens who are getting treatment because of the affordable health care bill who otherwise wouldn't have a hope. Can you tell me what parts of the affordable health care bill you find appalling and have absolutely nothing to do with health care...... would be extremely interested in why you are so against the health bill and indeed what experience you have of a UHC for you to say there are death panels etc etc or are you just repeating biased B/S from right wing liars who will do everything in their power to keep their "chums" the insurance companies and big corporations and the greedy rolling in cash?
Unfortunately because of the very same fear tactics as the ones you have been brainwashed with (death panels etc) President Obama had to settle for a watered down bill that has stuff in it forced on the President for votes otherwise he would not have got the bill passed. There are now many many American Citizens who are getting treatment because of the affordable health care bill who otherwise wouldn't have a hope. Can you tell me what parts of the affordable health care bill you find appalling and have absolutely nothing to do with health care...... would be extremely interested in why you are so against the health bill and indeed what experience you have of a UHC for you to say there are death panels etc etc or are you just repeating biased B/S from right wing liars who will do everything in their power to keep their "chums" the insurance companies and big corporations and the greedy rolling in cash?
I want to chime in that the death-panel fallacy of Obamacare blows my mind. We have death-panels now: They're called insurance companies. They are profit oriented--period--and can and will deny you coverage if they can legally get away with it.
You don't have that under a UHC. You get the best healthcare possible, not what the insurance company is reluctantly willing to pay for.
None of this matters to the sycophants who slobber at the trough of government largesse. They just want their gimmmeees.
To be honest the only real "gimmmeees" that i have seen here who are harming America are the Banks and big corporations who's hands are out as soon as they are failing. They are the true "spongers" on society with their bailouts, corrupt practices and mega bonuses even when they destroy their own company they still think "the world owes them a living"............ pathetic !
Last year my daughter and I took a stroll through Occupy encampment in Toronto...I was a bit shocked to see kids holding up big banners with the face of Chairman Mao.. Worse were the old creeps from the dated communist movement - with pictures of Lenin...the old guys really bothered me- I got close to look at their faces...I felt enraged...My daughter had to cool me down...It was as if I was looking back in time...all I could think of was "These are the same faces that shot my grandfather"- after all these years my brother and I found records of grandfathers execution...What really bothered me is that they persecuted him for six solid years till they could get a charge to stick.
It was highly disturbing when I saw the dates...."shot April 16th" - "found guilty by the court April 20th"----------------The bastards shot him first THEN found the dead man guilty...
I just don't like socialists. An old friend of my mothers who was in his late 80s at the time said one thing about old SOVIET Russia and the revolution............"They killed intelligent people who were guilty of the sin of working hard"....People who through their own efforts and energy made something of themselves.
Communism is not the same as Socialism.... why are you talking about Communists then saying you don't like Socialists???????? two different concepts, in fact, present America is extremely like Communist Russia which also had a extremely rich small group dictating to the rest of the citizens just like here right now.
The Russian revolution has NOTHING to do with Socialism today........ When are some here going to stop being brainwashed by the ignorant and realise that Communism and Socialism are DIFFERENT!
I want to chime in that the death-panel fallacy of Obamacare blows my mind. We have death-panels now: They're called insurance companies. They are profit oriented--period--and can and will deny you coverage if they can legally get away with it.
I am amazed every day here how gullable many Americans are here. If these so called "informed" Americans spent a bit more time learning the facts instead of just parroting the soundbites of whatever political party they support........... Not everything is about this political hate fest in the USA but anyone would find it hard bo to bgelieve that "petty politics" is killing America.
People die here or are put under a death sentence by the Insurance companies daily and denied treatment or denying cover for pre existing condition etc.
In the UK, if you are healthy enough to have surgery no matter what age, you will get surgery or treatments with NOT ONE death panel in sight.
You don't have that under a UHC. You get the best healthcare possible, not what the insurance company is reluctantly willing to pay for.
Absolutely............. not ONE person goes to bed in the UK worrying about getting sick and whether they can get treatment or not.
My Father had a Cardiac Arrest a couple of years ago. He was dead for 10 mins and given 5 defibs.... he was resuscitated, put in a critical care ward, watched 24 hours a day and then given major heart surgery.... mytral valve replacement... double heart bypass and a pacemaker..... he was 88.
My Father will celebrate his 91st Birthday this Sept. He was the oldest taxi driver in London at 90 after a full recovery from his arrest and surgery and this cost him NOTHING. He is still getting regular chexk ups and medicines.
Not bad for a system that some here say couldn't work in the USA.... well it works everywhere else.
I know the difference between the absolute lack of worry about getting health care in other Countries and the absolute stress medically, mentally and financially here in the USA.
Imagine a America where health care is NOT a issue... NOT anything to do woth employment and NOT bankrupting anyone..... NO State boundaries for health care, wherever you are in America you are covered..... A health care system that would create millions of jobs overnight..... well that is what would happen with a UHC..... ooops i forgot.... the greed ridden corporations, pharmaceutical companies and Doctors etc would have to be only rich and not mega mega rich.
any mandate (mannditory obligation) is socialism and facism
american liberalism/fascism/socialism/naziism/communism..all from the marxist progressive movement...all sisters on the left
I agree. If it is unconstitutional now, it was unconstitutional then, and until the US Constitution is changed, it will always be unconstitutional. It does not matter who proposed the mandate, Republicans or Democrats, they are liberal freaks that support socialist fascism. Who ever said that Democrats were the only source of liberal freaks in Congress? There are conservative Democrats and liberal freak Republicans, just as their are liberal freak Democrats and conservative Republicans.
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